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My moderate take on feminism
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:30 AM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) A sound law to end feminism would require a girl to be married (old-fashioned coverture marriage, no-divorce husband basically owns the wife) by 20 or she goes to a brothel and the only way she leaves is if a man takes her as a wife. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757298) |
Date: March 20th, 2026 11:32 AM Author: logged in poaster the measures that we as a society would have to take to actually reverse feminism and its negative effects are so extreme that they're not even worth discussing outside of "misogynistic" jokes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757300) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:33 AM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) what's the overlap between the people responsible for feminism and those responsible for our current economic plight? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757312) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:46 AM Author: logged in poaster feminism isn't a mono-causal issue
it's actually way worse than people think. 'feminism' is not just about women qua women. it's an anti-vitality, anti-life, anti-human disease that has enveloped all of modern human civilization
it's wrapped up in "liberal" enlightenment values and it can't be extricated from the baseline moral assumptions and beliefs that the modern world collectively holds
reversing it would require the complete dismantling of our society and its replacement with something totally foreign to modern human sensibilities |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:47 AM Author: :-P (gunneratttt) i wouldn't call traditional conservative values "completely foreign." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757353) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:48 AM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757359) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:53 AM Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,;:.,.:..:.,:,::,. A lot of traditional conservatives send their daughters off to liberal co-ed colleges, and encourage them to start a career and date multiple men to find "Mr. Right". Going to some SEC school and joining a sorority is a conservative coded lifestyle, but is actually extremely liberal. Getting back to keeping girls home and setting up soft arranged marriages between 18-20 years old is practically unthinkable even to most traditional conservatives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757367) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:58 AM Author: :-P (gunneratttt) that doesn't change the fact that the values of our ancestors that are still practiced across the globe aren't "completely foreign." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757378) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 12:01 PM Author: logged in poaster "traditional conservative" values aren't a real thing. "conservatism" is a made-up cope 'concept' that people turn to in order to feel Superior to "insane" shitlibs (people who are taking enlightenment values to their legitimate and inevitable conclusion)
all of this - feminism and the rest of what i described above - is an inevitable consequence of enlightenment values. some would even argue that christianity alone put us on this trajectory, and that the enlightenment and its values were inevitable, too
i am not, at least not right now, advocating for a complete "roll-back" of enlightenment values. partly because it's impossible. "we" as the collective body of western civilization have already biologically evolved to an animal that's incompatible with pre-enlightenment values
there isn't actually a "solution" to all this. optimistically, there will be smaller pockets of westerners who will end up with pre-enlightenment values out of necessity due to selection, as modern society breaks down. those who maintain enlightenment values will not reproduce and/or they will be killed |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 12:10 PM Author: :-P (gunneratttt) disagree. enlightment thinkers were pretty based on women, and abrahamic religions have plenty of orthodox sects that are based too.
modern western values are a rejection of these things, not a natural evolution or consequence of them. |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: logged in poaster yeah, they were pretty "based" on women. just like you and i are pretty "based" on women today. but it doesn't matter. their fundamental moral beliefs and worldview, like ours, are in outright contradiction to these "based" beliefs on women that we hold
individual rights, freedom of expression, freedom of movement, free markets, "human rights" - all of these enlightenment values are incompatible with being "based" on women. they inevitably lead to 'feminism' and to the state of our society today
anyone or anything that tries to resist this trend has been and is out-competed. that's why it's "inevitable." but as the system collapses under the weight of foreigners who are incompatible with it, the selection pressures will eventually reverse, like i explained above |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 12:48 PM Author: :-P (gunneratttt) disagree. all of those concepts have existed in various forms forever because they derive from human agency. the belief that the government ought to protect these liberties never implied that they are limitless. that's anarchy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757515) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 12:58 PM Author: logged in poaster they absolutely have not, lol. they are completely unique within human history. they are *by far* the most unique set of cultural values that have ever occurred in the entire history of the human species. nothing else comes even close. totally foreign to the baseline human condition
this is why it would be impossible to ever "roll them back." someone like you literally cannot even mentally conceptualize that this set of values and assumptions about the world that we have is totally unique and totally foreign to everyone else throughout history. there's no "pivoting away" from it. it's all that anyone knows and can know, now |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:55 AM Author: AZNgirl not letting AZNmen enter Website cr, the fact even nowag countries like japan, china, viet cannot handle their bitches just shows its OVER for the human race, it was a nice run (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757370) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:39 AM Author: :-P (gunneratttt) too much government interference. just make a dotter a father's chattel until she's married. fatherless women and widows pass down like any other property but only to men. if a woman escheats to the state then the government could get involved. there could be sheriff sales or perhaps use them as a benefit for combat veterans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757327) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:48 AM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757356) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 11:58 AM Author: AZNgirl not letting AZNmen enter Website cr also they'll be a bidding system for indian men in india to big on birdshit women in the US (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757377) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 12:00 PM Author: :-P (gunneratttt) no, there should be a ban on foreign ownership of american assets, particularly land and women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757380) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 12:14 PM Author: Gavin Newsom We already de facto have this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757412) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 12:39 PM Author: legally female father You are a fat, creepy pedophile. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757483) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:19 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) Tho creepy! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757791) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 12:59 PM Author: MASE Oh wow another post where a man gives his input on how woman ought to behave, how brave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757557) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 1:58 PM Author: Richard Ames Feminism's rise was entirely predicated on a gigantic reduction in malthusian pressures. This was driven by the advent of cheap energy. We are slowly, but surely, exiting that era. As we do, feminism will be forced back in the closet.
When the economy can't support completely unnecessary industries and jobs that are entirely tied to consumer spending, women will go back to their natural roles. |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:01 PM Author: logged in poaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757750) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:17 PM Author: :-P (gunneratttt) gc demanding female laborers isnt a luxury. if resources get scarcer that'll put more, not less, pressure on women to remain in the workforce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757785) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:21 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) I disagree. Women in the workforce is a sign of excess, not scarcity. When shit gets tough, women will get laid off and men will do the heavy lifting, as they have for millennia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757796) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:31 PM Author: :-P (gunneratttt) the words oldest profession is a female one. lower class women have been forced to work since the beginning of time. so have children.
of course men will do the heavy lifting but there's a ton of shit women tend to be better at like cooking, cleaning, etc. and of course they *can* do hard labor too, and have had to survive or because they were forced to. and there are plenty of female professionals that outperform men.
normalizing working women was a gc trick to increase the labor pool. it could only be reversed if an average man can provide sufficient resources for his family alone. increased resource scarcity would obviously put more pressure for women to generate resources for their family. |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:41 PM Author: Richard Ames But GC didn't just sit around a table and say "let's trick women into working in an office." It was driven by underlying conditions (abundant growth in cheap energy, relatively cheap cost of capital, and advances in technology.)
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:22 PM Author: logged in poaster Women in the workforce results in a net negative effect on economic production not net positive
Like I said above people's brains are so completely warped by modern society and the objectively extremely strange beliefs that it rests on that they literally cannot cognitively wrap their heads around this stuff
You can see how and why "talking about this stuff" never gets anywhere. People are not capable of "talking about it" because they don't even know what's going on |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:34 PM Author: AZNgirl not letting AZNmen enter Website its literally sexist to even say women's have a special biological role to maek babbies that men simply dont
until a country is willing to say this and tolerate feminazis going insane i doubt TFR goes up |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:37 PM Author: Richard Ames Look at the lines of work that women go into. Look at the actual jobs they do. The vast majority can only exist in times of easy energy growth and cheap cost of capital. Men do the vast, vast, vast majority of real productive labor.
As conditions become more difficult, resources will be further allocated towards real productive labor. Almost all of which is done by men.
I also think women will welcome this. Most women don't actually like *work*. Many men don't like their *jobs*, but they don't have the easy "get out of work free" card that women do (pregnancy, child rearing.) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:45 PM Author: :-P (gunneratttt) this is all true however you're missing a step where the resources allocated to male workers would necessarily have to be sufficient for a household, otherwise women would *have* to work, even if it was for a very low wage. and whatever the labor value of women is it's non-zero, otherwise there wouldn't have been women slaves or paid female servants going back to ancient history. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757888) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:47 PM Author: logged in poaster Women performing localized household tasks is not the same thing as occupying a wage job in industrialized society
When we say "entering the workforce" we are referring exclusively to the latter, which results in a net negative effect to overall economic production for a variety of reasons |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:54 PM Author: :-P (gunneratttt) if resources became scarce to the point that the luxury of female professional employment was practically eliminated, the wages of men would also fall precipitously, unless you think that they would get paid more to the point that they'd be able to support a household.
which would require women to work to supplement household income. as has been the case in pre-industrial eras. so sure, perhaps women would be excluded from important roles, but theyd instead be employed mending clothes, cleaning, cooking, etc. |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:53 PM Author: Richard Ames I'm not arguing that zero women will work, but that the female percentage of the workforce will decrease substantially over time. It isn't going to happen overnight. And obviously there are actual productive jobs where women are well suited (nursing, etc.)
The current situation is such that the debt bubble is so large and TPTB are doing whatever it takes to keep it going. This has the effect of immiserating huge swathes of the population - costs keep rising, asset prices stay elevated, so households need both people to work in order to stay above water.
Over time, I think we will see:
1.) Deflation of asset prices, thus a lowering of the cost of living.
--Note that this may also mean people have less from a material standpoint, but are not living on a knife's edge from a financial perspective.
2.) People shifting to much lower cost of living lifestyles. People will "choose" to deflate. This is already happening IMO. Look at the rise of tiny home communities, as one example.
A huge number of bullshit jobs are being kept afloat by the Fed's never-ending "emergency" measures. Many companies are zombie firms that need to continuously roll over their debt to stay in business. This wildly distorts markets, including labor markets.
If and when these companies are allowed to fail / restructure, the workforce itself will restructure to better reflect the types of companies that can sustain themselves in the fundamental underlying economic environment. |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 2:19 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847862&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49757793) |