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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay dont understand paying 4000x for "five guys" etc when you can just make them at home in like 20min
did some eggs, two patties, got a scallion and just bit off chunks of it instead of faggot cutting it up then spat them out onto my buns, 180 |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: Laughsome twisted stage 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457650) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: Exciting range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457654) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: Laughsome twisted stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457659) |
Date: November 24th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: Exciting range Started putting some pickle juice in my burger sauce - fucking gamechanger. Went 43 years not knowing about this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457652) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: Laughsome twisted stage 180^180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457657) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:19 PM Author: concupiscible internet-worthy brethren spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457681) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Laughsome twisted stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457683) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:35 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457769) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:36 PM Author: odious apoplectic point bbw Wow holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457774) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: self-centered contagious step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459135) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 11:07 AM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay tried this today, poured some pickle juice from a jar into a smaller receptacle then just dumped it straight into my sauce, rly good, makes the whole thing go down smooth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459156) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 11:24 AM Author: odious apoplectic point bbw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459240) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:02 PM Author: Exciting range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460279) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 4:06 PM Author: Comical Hideous Indirect Expression Yarmulke You're the motherfuckin' Pickle Rick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460068) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 4:08 PM Author: obsidian razzle-dazzle hospital WTF is burger sauce? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460072) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 4:22 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay xoers are uniquely performative & phony, further evidenced by RSF has greedily jumping into the fray to declare he doesnt know/couldnt possibly deduce what "burger sauce" is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460114) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:02 PM Author: Exciting range The condiments you’d usually put on a burger but just mixed together: mayo, ketchup, mustard and, now in my house, pickle juice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460281) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:50 PM Author: obsidian razzle-dazzle hospital I do not normally add those all to a burger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460492) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:08 PM Author: Comical Hideous Indirect Expression Yarmulke Sure bud sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49461276) |
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Date: March 1st, 2026 8:12 AM Author: More emilio than emilio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49704639) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:09 PM Author: Comical Hideous Indirect Expression Yarmulke Got it, special sauce / Big Mac sauce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49461277) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: concupiscible internet-worthy brethren spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457653) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: Laughsome twisted stage 180! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457658) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: swashbuckling harsh kitchen kitty But you made them in a cheesy way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457684) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:21 PM Author: Laughsome twisted stage Heard both versions of this song on the radio today, 180 (can never decide which I like more so it's nice that God didn't make me choose) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457690) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:20 AM Author: swashbuckling harsh kitchen kitty Both??
I only know of one version |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:25 AM Author: Laughsome twisted stage <3<3<3
https://youtu.be/cOeKidp-iWo?si=GYYBrpeaCd8G2Plm |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 11:00 AM Author: swashbuckling harsh kitchen kitty Oh duh lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459120) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 11:51 AM Author: Laughsome twisted stage ;-) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459328) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 12:25 PM Author: Fragrant Rusted Idiot Tytyty 1800000 cant believe i never heard the original (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459427) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: Laughsome twisted stage YW my wholesomely lysergic brother :-) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459443) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 4:58 PM Author: Comical Hideous Indirect Expression Yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460261) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:35 PM Author: pearl turdskin corner Spat it out onto my buns tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49457771) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 7:47 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay got two patties left gonna do this tomorrow also then its back to ground beef & rice I need donations asap |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 9:52 AM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay just did it again, feeling good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49458901) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 9:53 AM Author: Vibrant pea-brained location international law enforcement agency do an oklahoma onion burger. its better than like 99% of fast food or gourmet burgers and takes minutes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49458902) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:21 AM Author: bossy fear-inspiring lodge burgers tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49458974) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:24 AM Author: Laughsome twisted stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49458980) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:25 AM Author: lime crackhouse ladyboy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49458983) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:25 AM Author: Laughsome twisted stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49458987) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 12:26 PM Author: Fragrant Rusted Idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459430) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: Laughsome twisted stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459437) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:53 AM Author: Emerald Thirsty Tattoo did you Bake the Burger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459087) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:56 AM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay Will you send me ETH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459098) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:55 AM Author: Walnut fighting codepig death wish Eggs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459095) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: cobalt wagecucks Burger sauce? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459134) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 11:53 AM Author: Jet Athletic Conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459331) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 12:21 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay ur totally free u can do whatever u want dont have to torture urself like this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459414) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 12:26 PM Author: Fragrant Rusted Idiot libs dont believe free will exists iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459433) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: cobalt wagecucks is this a southern thing or something wtf are you people talking about as if this isnt the weirdest shit on earth "burger sauce" is that teh "special sauce" that every fast food place uses which is just mayo and kethcup plus a tiny bit of pickle juice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459446) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay I havent typed "burger sauce" once ITT hth fulano you faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49459491) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:04 PM Author: Exciting range Chat gpt told me about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460290) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 4:26 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay are fulano and rsf really gonna pretend not to know what burger sauce is
sociopathy involved in waxing dramatically about not knowing about condiments |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 4:28 PM Author: swollen clear set sex offender I have never heard of this “sauce” either 🤯
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Date: November 25th, 2025 4:29 PM Author: cobalt wagecucks i dont know what burger sauce is. im sorry that this has made you inconsolable 10 hours later (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460147) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 4:37 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay crowbarring into a chill lowercase thread about burgers to disingenuously affect feigned ignorance about a condiment is insane & homosexual
straight up dont believe you
1st guy to use the compound "burger sauce" itt was pickle juice guy fwiw
“burger sauce” is a sauce used on burgers. You don’t need prior knowledge ur insane |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:58 PM Author: obsidian razzle-dazzle hospital A sauce used on burgers? You mean ketchup? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460523) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 4:50 PM Author: yapping dysfunction rehab not an expert chef here but I feel like it might refer to sauce that you put on a burger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460243) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: Galvanic Space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460251) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:09 PM Author: doobsian lake sweet tailpipe coffee pot I think it's a bit weird to call it "burger sauce" when fry sauce / Thousand Island / secret sauce / Mayochup are all more common names for the same thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry_sauce
That fry sauce sometimes makes its way onto burgers doesn't make it "burger sauce".
IMO fry sauce should be left for fries, ketchup & mayo should generally be discrete elements on a burger.
Rules are made to be broken though; the Big Mac is a credited burger in part due to the sauce, not in spite of it. |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:10 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay Why are you addressing me I never used the term Pickle juice said it first
Reply to him
In any case, its not hard to figure out wtf it means wtf is wrong w u ppl
WTF IS "FRY SAUCE"
Theres NO fucking shot thats gonna fly now if we're blowing gaskets over "burger sauce" ge fucked #
MAYOCHUP???????????? |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Exciting range ChatGPT called it that. I’m a dad in my 40s and law partner. It’s not like I’m talking to people irl. I don’t know what the fuck people call things but I sure as shit have never heard someone say “mayochup” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460316) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay Brother they lost their minds itt but are saying "fry sauce" and "mayochup" are colloquial terms this has been very enlightening (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460318) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:17 PM Author: Exciting range I think it’s a regional thing like Michigan and Upstate NYers calling it “pop” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460339) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:23 PM Author: doobsian lake sweet tailpipe coffee pot The Mayochup thing is relatively new, it came out in 2018.
I don't think it's called Mayochup all that often colloquially now, but I think it will become a dominant term for it precisely because glocap is forcememing it |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:37 PM Author: Comical Hideous Indirect Expression Yarmulke dad in my 40s and law partner tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49461320) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:25 PM Author: doobsian lake sweet tailpipe coffee pot All the terms I listed have wiki articles about them, "burger sauce" does not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460387) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:27 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay lol u cannot be serious fucking mayochup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460397) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:10 PM Author: Exciting range Literally do not think I have ever seen or heard the word “Mayochup” but am not going to be a difficult lawyer feigning like I can’t possible deduce what it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460311) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:13 PM Author: doobsian lake sweet tailpipe coffee pot It's made by Heinz and it's on the shelf right next to Heinz ketchup in every grocery store in the country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460319) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:16 PM Author: Exciting range I believe you I just have never seen it. Also haven’t been in a Kroger/Safeway grocery store in like 15 years except for very discrete missions. Instacart, Trader Joe’s, produce market, sometimes Whole Foods or Sprouts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460334) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:11 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay IU just spat out my lychee ramune soda @ "mayochup" wtf are u smoking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460315) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:13 PM Author: doobsian lake sweet tailpipe coffee pot https://www.heinz.com/products/00013000013093-mayochup-mayonnaise-ketchup-sauce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49460324) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 10:10 PM Author: Comical Hideous Indirect Expression Yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49461280) |
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Date: January 31st, 2026 3:39 PM Author: Excitant travel guidebook lay we're doing this today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49636177) |
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Date: January 31st, 2026 3:48 PM Author: overrated bat shit crazy trailer park useless brakes shalt thou create mayochup? may we suggest adding pickle liquid to enhance its flavour. i dare say, one may find ones burger lifted to the 180 level should this be included, my good man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49636199) |
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Date: January 31st, 2026 4:32 PM Author: cobalt wagecucks ive not heard the term "burger sauce" since this thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49636323) |
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Date: March 1st, 2026 7:56 AM Author: did the journal factory explode why did you address / reply to OP instead of the person replying who actually typed Burger Sauce out ITT
pickle juice never got his feet held to the fire on the provenance of burger sauce, I simply defended him from the insanity of faggily feigned wilful ignorance |
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Date: March 1st, 2026 7:46 AM Author: fatty nigger (✅🍑) this is the perfect xo thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49704599) |
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Date: March 1st, 2026 5:53 PM Author: did the journal factory explode your fat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310744#49706325) |