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Trump admin filed reply brief in birthright citizenship case

https://x.com/bhweingarten/status/2034747530282438941?s=46
White marvelous university alpha
  03/21/26
The Trump admin has filed its reply brief in the birthright ...
White marvelous university alpha
  03/21/26
I like that argument
Cracking den foreskin
  03/23/26
rofl wtf is this shit did they have a DOJ MAGA intern write ...
fiercely-loyal narrow-minded church
  03/23/26
It's called CON law for a reason, and it's not because it's ...
blathering peach depressive public bath
  03/23/26
speak for your self Rishi. nothing but sailing ships in my h...
Trip mint site athletic conference
  03/23/26
you're such an indian mud person. You'd have the exact oppo...
Indecent pale gaming laptop circlehead
  03/23/26
sounds 180
overrated scourge upon the earth
  03/23/26
1. why would we assume descendants of those enslaved by a co...
Violent turdskin parlour
  03/23/26
loyalty as a concept is irrelevant here also how u determ...
sinister fat ankles kitchen
  03/23/26
Another slam dunk argument from VoteRepublican tp A verit...
Swashbuckling high-end locale
  03/23/26
the brief's argument includes "lack ties of allegiance&...
Fragrant Goal In Life Hall
  03/23/26
who get persecuted for espionage?
sinister fat ankles kitchen
  03/23/26
what?
Fragrant Goal In Life Hall
  03/23/26
what mean you? are you talking of parent or the kid itslef?
sinister fat ankles kitchen
  03/23/26
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Swashbuckling high-end locale
  03/23/26
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White marvelous university alpha
  03/21/26
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White marvelous university alpha
  03/23/26
not even TTThomas will buy this BS. He’ll find some ot...
Magenta Coffee Pot
  03/23/26
...
fiercely-loyal narrow-minded church
  03/23/26
I find briefs like this to be kind of pointless. It's not l...
mildly autistic indian lodge milk
  03/23/26
This but for literally all of "law"
Swashbuckling high-end locale
  03/23/26
...
blathering peach depressive public bath
  03/23/26
there's a very respectable argument along those lines. Peter...
lascivious gay parlor
  03/23/26
stare decisis in those born before (not so long ago) fuck t...
Dashing Heaven
  03/23/26
can someone translate this gibberish to english?
Fragrant Goal In Life Hall
  03/23/26
i dont think anyone with option want the usa cit only poors ...
sinister fat ankles kitchen
  03/23/26
there is a strong case that Congress can regulate BRC, but i...
lascivious gay parlor
  03/23/26
i think its more than "strong"
overrated scourge upon the earth
  03/23/26
agreed. Peter Struck (Yale) has laid out the case convincing...
lascivious gay parlor
  03/23/26
if you actually took all of congress and got them aligned on...
overrated scourge upon the earth
  03/23/26
true, but SCOTUS would step aside before that was necessary,...
lascivious gay parlor
  03/23/26
https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-ques...
lascivious gay parlor
  03/23/26
this Minnesota law professor, Ilan Wurman, is getting some a...
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  03/29/26


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Date: March 21st, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: White marvelous university alpha

https://x.com/bhweingarten/status/2034747530282438941?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49760465)



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Date: March 21st, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: White marvelous university alpha

The Trump admin has filed its reply brief in the birthright citizenship case before the Supreme Court. It opens:

The “main object” of the Citizenship Clause was to grant citizenship to freed slaves and their children, whose allegiance to the United States had generally been established through generations of parental domicile. By contrast, aliens who are just passing through the United States, and those who cross our borders illegally, lack ties of allegiance and do not obtain the “priceless and profound gift” of citizenship for their children.

To receive citizenship under the Clause, a person must be both born “in the United States” and “subject to the jurisdiction thereof…” That language grants citizenship to children “completely subject” to the United States’ “political jurisdiction.” Children of temporarily present or illegal aliens do not qualify because their parents are not domiciled in, and thus do not owe the requisite allegiance to, the United States. Temporarily present aliens are by definition not domiciled here, while illegal aliens lack the legal capacity to form such a domicile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49760537)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:04 PM
Author: Cracking den foreskin

I like that argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762328)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:07 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal narrow-minded church

rofl wtf is this shit did they have a DOJ MAGA intern write this shit

"allegiance to the United States had generally been established through generations of parental domicile" --- rofl so by this rationale, is ANYONE a furking citizen? everyone at some point had an ancestor who HAD NOT been in the US for generations

and the "domicile" shit ljl if they arent domiciled in US can they be arrested for shoplifting or other crime?

rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762340)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:17 PM
Author: blathering peach depressive public bath

It's called CON law for a reason, and it's not because it's conservative

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762407)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: Trip mint site athletic conference

speak for your self Rishi. nothing but sailing ships in my history.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762577)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:09 PM
Author: Indecent pale gaming laptop circlehead

you're such an indian mud person. You'd have the exact opposite take if India was rapidly becoming white and whitey was trying to claim they were REAL indians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763030)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:31 PM
Author: overrated scourge upon the earth

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763081)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:35 PM
Author: Violent turdskin parlour

1. why would we assume descendants of those enslaved by a country would be loyal to that very country?

2. i thought domicile was presence and intent to remain. why can't a non-citizen be domiciled in the US even if staying in the US indefinitely would be illegal? presumably, this isn't the definition of domicile used in federal courts for diversity jurisdiction when one of the litigants is a non-US citizen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763090)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:46 PM
Author: sinister fat ankles kitchen

loyalty as a concept is irrelevant here

also how u determine intent for where someone stays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763107)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: Swashbuckling high-end locale

Another slam dunk argument from VoteRepublican tp

A veritable Digital Socrates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763108)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:55 PM
Author: Fragrant Goal In Life Hall

the brief's argument includes "lack ties of allegiance", so they are certainly making loyalty an issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763122)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 4:06 PM
Author: sinister fat ankles kitchen

who get persecuted for espionage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763141)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 4:56 PM
Author: Fragrant Goal In Life Hall

what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763274)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 5:07 PM
Author: sinister fat ankles kitchen

what mean you? are you talking of parent or the kid itslef?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763312)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: Swashbuckling high-end locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763290)



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Date: March 21st, 2026 10:04 PM
Author: White marvelous university alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49760619)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:03 PM
Author: White marvelous university alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762321)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:06 PM
Author: Magenta Coffee Pot

not even TTThomas will buy this BS. He’ll find some other way to rule in Trump’s favor but this isn’t it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762339)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:07 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal narrow-minded church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762343)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: mildly autistic indian lodge milk

I find briefs like this to be kind of pointless. It's not like the justices are going to be swayed by these things, they have their own ideas and clerks to research these questions. They're going to rule however they like and I can't see these briefs doing much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762348)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: Swashbuckling high-end locale

This but for literally all of "law"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762421)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:59 PM
Author: blathering peach depressive public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762563)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:29 PM
Author: lascivious gay parlor

there's a very respectable argument along those lines. Peter Schuck of Yale, not at all a conservative, wrote it out in op-eds, serious articles, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763075)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:15 PM
Author: Dashing Heaven

stare decisis in those born before (not so long ago)

fuck the rest of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762396)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:31 PM
Author: Fragrant Goal In Life Hall

can someone translate this gibberish to english?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763078)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:46 PM
Author: sinister fat ankles kitchen

i dont think anyone with option want the usa cit only poors n shit so who cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763104)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: lascivious gay parlor

there is a strong case that Congress can regulate BRC, but i don't see how the POTUS can do it on his own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49762646)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:32 PM
Author: overrated scourge upon the earth

i think its more than "strong"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763083)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:43 PM
Author: lascivious gay parlor

agreed. Peter Struck (Yale) has laid out the case convincingly in op-eds, serious articles, and even a book as i recall.

pro-BRC people say "the text is simple and complete," but from day one significant groups of people born in the US were automatically denied BRC and everyone knew that that was ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763099)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: overrated scourge upon the earth

if you actually took all of congress and got them aligned on something couldnt they just impeach their way through the whole federal government including the judiciary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763114)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:55 PM
Author: lascivious gay parlor

true, but SCOTUS would step aside before that was necessary, i think.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763121)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: lascivious gay parlor

https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-question-of-birthright-citizenship

https://levszentkiralyi.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/schuck-and-smith_citizenship-without-consent-1996.pdf

https://archive.ph/m97r6

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20150429/103384/HHRG-114-JU01-Wstate-GragliaL-20150429.pdf

libs attacked them for the argument. a classic political hit job postured as journalism:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/the-liberal-scholars-who-influenced-trumps-attack-on-birthright-citizenship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49763126)



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Date: March 29th, 2026 10:54 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


this Minnesota law professor, Ilan Wurman, is getting some attention for his argument that children of illegals don't get birthright citizenship.

https://journals.law.harvard.edu/jlpp/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2026/02/49.Wurman.pdf

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/25/25-365/392842/20260127175852031_Trump%20v%20Barbara%20-%20Wurman%20Amicus%20Brief%20-%20FINAL.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD2DWeQQeSg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49778177)