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RANK these Italian cities: Bologna, Milan, Turin, Genoa

in terms of being worth visiting
sickened copper voyeur
  03/31/18
Bologna > Genoa > Milan > Turin but all of them ar...
180 infuriating masturbator
  03/31/18
I'm planning a vacation where I visit both SAN MARINO and MO...
sickened copper voyeur
  03/31/18
leave out Turin and do the other 3 but Florence and Siena a...
180 infuriating masturbator
  03/31/18
already been to Florence Siena is not on the main rail li...
sickened copper voyeur
  03/31/18
Siena is awesome
180 infuriating masturbator
  03/31/18
http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/map.php?file=maps/italy/...
sickened copper voyeur
  03/31/18
fair
180 infuriating masturbator
  03/31/18
Wtf? Milan above all else, maybe Bologna but screw the other...
Hairless casino round eye
  03/31/18
what's cool to do in Bologna
sickened copper voyeur
  03/31/18
Restaurants, drink at euro college bars, Bruno Magli factory...
Comical water buffalo
  04/01/18
apart from the Duomo and the Scala, and a couple of deliciou...
180 infuriating masturbator
  03/31/18
that's why I'd spend one day there en route to Monaco and th...
sickened copper voyeur
  03/31/18
Opera, 180 shopping, Sforza castle, last supper, city walls,...
Comical water buffalo
  04/01/18
I guess I could do the following: Rimini (SAN MARINO) to ...
sickened copper voyeur
  03/31/18
do this one
180 infuriating masturbator
  03/31/18
that basically makes Milan impossible also all I read abo...
sickened copper voyeur
  03/31/18
Genoa is gritty and urban. If you like that kind of thing go...
claret lay idea he suggested
  04/01/18
Bologna is 180
mustard stage
  04/01/18
explain - because of the SCHOLARSHIP of Europe's oldest univ...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
This itinerary is kind of shitty and seems shrewy. Who tf ca...
Hyperventilating pit
  04/01/18
Lucca is CRRRRR
stimulating sexy death wish filthpig
  04/01/18
wtf I've literally never heard of it. guess I'm gonna resear...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
i randomly stopped there last time i was in italy and boy am...
stimulating sexy death wish filthpig
  04/01/18
please EXPLAIN and ELABORATE
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
its just a beautiful little city, gorgeous architecture, the...
stimulating sexy death wish filthpig
  04/01/18
k. it's not on the direct rail line so it would have to be a...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
maybe not, depends on your priorities
stimulating sexy death wish filthpig
  04/01/18
It's on the line bw Pisa and Florence. Prob some commuter li...
Hyperventilating pit
  04/01/18
Huh, looks like I can get from Bologna to Lucca directly by ...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
you've never opened up page fucking one of war & peace?
Chest-beating fishy love of her life
  04/01/18
lol
useless aquamarine garrison
  04/01/18
No - I was a Crime and Punishment teen
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
Milan is probably best of those four cities if you have to c...
metal dragon
  04/01/18
(guy asking why people like trains on a board for autists)
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
fair point. but seriously renting a car in Italy is aweso...
metal dragon
  04/01/18
my wife has a rule against driving in other countries
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
it's even the same side of the road! she doesn't have to dri...
metal dragon
  04/01/18
she just gets super anxious that we'll violate some foreign ...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
grow some testicles and then grow a beard because you're don...
useless aquamarine garrison
  04/01/18
...
filthy school cafeteria
  04/01/18
Milan sucks, it's a dirty industrial city.
razzmatazz flesh deer antler toilet seat
  04/01/18
what is the CREDITED route to take between San Marino and Mo...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
Monaco is nothing special and if you're going anytime soon i...
razzmatazz flesh deer antler toilet seat
  04/01/18
breh, I am a shrew who cares about the number of countries I...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
"I don't do international travel unless my country coun...
territorial home
  04/01/18
shit's gonna get really kooky once I visit all the low hangi...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
Norway sounds nice, but I really enjoy visiting a place repe...
territorial home
  04/01/18
yeah that's actually my situation too, wife is third trimest...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
Nice. Where else are you planning to go? Are your itinerarie...
territorial home
  04/01/18
Not by the hour - typically in 3 hour blocks by the time the...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
You can base in Bologna which has some tourist stuff and goo...
razzmatazz flesh deer antler toilet seat
  04/01/18
See above, wife has a rule against driving in other countrie...
sickened copper voyeur
  04/01/18
It's by far the easiest way to get from Bologna to San Marin...
razzmatazz flesh deer antler toilet seat
  04/01/18
Terrible approach towards life imo
Hyperventilating pit
  04/01/18
If pressed for time, I'd skip Milan and go here instead: ...
territorial home
  04/01/18
You obsession with counting countries is TTT and pointless. ...
Comical water buffalo
  04/01/18
...
Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower
  01/28/26


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Date: March 31st, 2018 10:51 PM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

in terms of being worth visiting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734347)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: 180 infuriating masturbator

Bologna > Genoa > Milan > Turin

but all of them are in the 2nd tier of visit-worthy cities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734358)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

I'm planning a vacation where I visit both SAN MARINO and MONACO, and these places are kinda inbetween

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734363)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: 180 infuriating masturbator

leave out Turin and do the other 3

but Florence and Siena are just as much or even more "in between" than Milan and FAR better places to visit than Milan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734395)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:01 PM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

already been to Florence

Siena is not on the main rail line the way the other places are, but I can consult the rail maps again to verify

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734400)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:01 PM
Author: 180 infuriating masturbator

Siena is awesome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734408)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/map.php?file=maps/italy/italy.gif

Siena may be awesome, but it's significantly out of the way for my trip

For SAN MARINO, I will be in Rimini. There is basically a straight line of high speed rail connecting Rimini to Bologna and Milan. From Milan, you can get to Monaco most directly via Genoa.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734416)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:05 PM
Author: 180 infuriating masturbator

fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734426)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Hairless casino round eye

Wtf? Milan above all else, maybe Bologna but screw the others

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734412)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

what's cool to do in Bologna

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734417)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:21 PM
Author: Comical water buffalo

Restaurants, drink at euro college bars, Bruno Magli factory/outlet, Ducati museum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35739115)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: 180 infuriating masturbator

apart from the Duomo and the Scala, and a couple of delicious veal dishes, what else is there to see in Milan? answer: not much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734424)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

that's why I'd spend one day there en route to Monaco and then for the rest of my life be able to say I've been to Milan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734433)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:18 PM
Author: Comical water buffalo

Opera, 180 shopping, Sforza castle, last supper, city walls, nice parks to stroll through.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35739089)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:38 PM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

I guess I could do the following:

Rimini (SAN MARINO) to Bologna

Bologna to Pisa

Pisa to Cinque Terre

Cinque Terre to Genoa

Genoa to MONACO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734632)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: 180 infuriating masturbator

do this one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734646)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 11:42 PM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

that basically makes Milan impossible

also all I read about Genoa says its kind of a dump so maybe we just blow past it straight to Monaco

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734650)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 12:00 AM
Author: claret lay idea he suggested

Genoa is gritty and urban. If you like that kind of thing go spend a day there walking through the maze of the old city and eating pesto and those anise cookies the nuns make. If you like fancier shit go to Milan instead and shop and eat a nice dinner by the canals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35734795)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 1:09 AM
Author: mustard stage

Bologna is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735158)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:08 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

explain - because of the SCHOLARSHIP of Europe's oldest university?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735682)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 4:16 AM
Author: Hyperventilating pit

This itinerary is kind of shitty and seems shrewy. Who tf cares about San Marino? Looks like you're racking up country visits.

Id stick to bologna maybe Verona. Pisa is a dump but you sound like a shrew so go get your selfie. Lucca is really lovely on the way to Pisa.

I actually find Turin interesting but Genoa is a typical Port dump. Nothing in Milan either.

(not claiming to be an expert)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735515)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:28 AM
Author: stimulating sexy death wish filthpig

Lucca is CRRRRR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735691)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:33 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

wtf I've literally never heard of it. guess I'm gonna research it now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735696)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:35 AM
Author: stimulating sexy death wish filthpig

i randomly stopped there last time i was in italy and boy am i glad i did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735698)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:36 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

please EXPLAIN and ELABORATE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735700)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:40 AM
Author: stimulating sexy death wish filthpig

its just a beautiful little city, gorgeous architecture, the city is surrounded by renaissance era walls. pace is generally pretty chill but there is cool stuff to see. idk i liked it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735708)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:40 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

k. it's not on the direct rail line so it would have to be a day trip from Pisa? Do I really want to spend 2 days on Pisa, one a day trip to Lucca? Seems excessive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735711)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:43 AM
Author: stimulating sexy death wish filthpig

maybe not, depends on your priorities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735714)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:53 AM
Author: Hyperventilating pit

It's on the line bw Pisa and Florence. Prob some commuter line. But easy to get to. It's much nicer than Pisa and there's no reason to spend more than 20 minutes in pisa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735735)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:56 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

Huh, looks like I can get from Bologna to Lucca directly by train.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35735737)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: Chest-beating fishy love of her life

you've never opened up page fucking one of war & peace?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35738034)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: useless aquamarine garrison

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35738058)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

No - I was a Crime and Punishment teen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35738066)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: metal dragon

Milan is probably best of those four cities if you have to choose. It can't compare to Florence/Venice/Rome but it's really nice and it feels more like a real modern city that people live in rather than a museum. If you go, get tickets to see Leonardo's Last Supper mural in advance (will likely have to be as part of some kind of tour), because you probably won't be able to get them on the day.

Also, why are you so focused on taking trains? You'd have way more fun if you rented a car. And why Monaco - there's nothing to do there except drink a $15 Heineken while looking at parked yachts. They don't even give you free drinks in the casino. The best thing to do in Monaco is leave to either France or Italy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736058)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

(guy asking why people like trains on a board for autists)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736060)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:43 AM
Author: metal dragon

fair point.

but seriously renting a car in Italy is awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736073)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

my wife has a rule against driving in other countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736076)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: metal dragon

it's even the same side of the road! she doesn't have to drive...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736149)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 11:00 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

she just gets super anxious that we'll violate some foreign traffic law we don't know about or something like that. she'll have an anxiety attack in the back seat.

totally irrational, but marriage means I have to treat irrational fears seriously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736153)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: useless aquamarine garrison

grow some testicles and then grow a beard because you're done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35738062)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 9:47 PM
Author: filthy school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35739776)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: razzmatazz flesh deer antler toilet seat

Milan sucks, it's a dirty industrial city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736061)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

what is the CREDITED route to take between San Marino and Monaco, then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736064)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: razzmatazz flesh deer antler toilet seat

Monaco is nothing special and if you're going anytime soon it will be dead. Unless you're already going to be near San Marino, there's no real reason to visit. It seems like it's an afternoon at most to see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736067)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:43 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

breh, I am a shrew who cares about the number of countries I've been to. I've already been to Italy once before (Rome/Florence/Naples) and if I go back to Italy, it's gotta include San Marino and Monaco so I can at least say I've picked up additional countries on the trip.

I don't do international travel unless my country count increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736071)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: territorial home

"I don't do international travel unless my country count increases."

disgusting!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736083)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

shit's gonna get really kooky once I visit all the low hanging fruit

one of these days I'm gonna fly to London with a 1 day stopover in Oslo or something weird like that just to add another country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736091)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: territorial home

Norway sounds nice, but I really enjoy visiting a place repeatedly and getting to know it better each time. With a kid on the way, though, I doubt I'll be flying anywhere for the next 5 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736104)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

yeah that's actually my situation too, wife is third trimester pregnant

but I love planning trips. this trip is going into a spreadsheet with like 5 other vacations that I have already planned out and won't be able to take until 2019 - 2020 at the earliest lol

I give them German style code names like "Case Dandalo"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736122)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: territorial home

Nice. Where else are you planning to go? Are your itineraries packed by the hour?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736138)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

Not by the hour - typically in 3 hour blocks by the time they are fully fleshed out

Currently I have plans for Iceland/Ireland, Netherlands/Belgium/Paris, two different Southeast Asia itineraries, and this new San Marino/Monaco one this thread is about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736151)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: razzmatazz flesh deer antler toilet seat

You can base in Bologna which has some tourist stuff and good restaurants, rent a car to drive to San Marino for the day and fly out of BLQ (prob via FCO) to NCE and go from there to Monaco by train. Why not just go to a few more interesting Euro countries you haven't seen yet? I am going to Kosovo, San Marino, Malta and Andorra on a quick trip between NY and Paris. Can share itin if you're interested.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736099)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: sickened copper voyeur

See above, wife has a rule against driving in other countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736103)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: razzmatazz flesh deer antler toilet seat

It's by far the easiest way to get from Bologna to San Marino, otherwise you have to take a combo of trains and buses. You could always hire a driver if wife won't let you drivemo it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736126)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Hyperventilating pit

Terrible approach towards life imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736111)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: territorial home

If pressed for time, I'd skip Milan and go here instead:

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2012/mar/09/italy-lake-orta-unspoilt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35736080)



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Date: April 1st, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: Comical water buffalo

You obsession with counting countries is TTT and pointless. You’d have a much better time if you weren’t an autist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3935282&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#35739126)



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Date: January 28th, 2026 5:59 PM
Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower



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