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What would Tiger be like if he were bad at golf?
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Date: March 31st, 2026 9:32 PM Author: aromatic dark piazza indirect expression He seems relatively intelligent and checks the right boxes, so I could see him as a token high-level corporate exec with an easy/bullshit portfolio (“EVP of Innovation”).
He’d definitely have a white wife, not as hot as Elin, but probably solid for a UMC shrew.
I can’t imagine he’d have a lot of friends, he would still be cheap and unpleasant. The black security guards would say hi to him but secretly think he’s an Urkel/Uncle Tom. |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 3:48 PM Author: Claret metal party of the first part mother lol he has zero charisma or gravitas. He'd maybe end up managing an Enterprise if he tried getting an office job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786721) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:14 PM Author: Aphrodisiac laser beams this. he is ugly. his personality sucks. he is not a great speaker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786782) |
Date: March 31st, 2026 9:33 PM Author: Hairraiser range seems like an accountant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49784857) |
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Date: March 31st, 2026 9:40 PM Author: Dashing rebellious library Second tier city rainmaker, or even office managing, partner at PwC with a portfolio of middle market goods & services distribution/middle-man companies that he sells audit and advisory services to. He’s 15% worse at golf than he is in our universe, which still makes him a standout at his country club (which he wouldn’t have been able to join prior to 1988). The contrast between how he’s treated there by the young businessman golfers and the old boomer biddies causes massive cognitive dissonances that spilled over into THE INCIDENT at the Christmas party a few years ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49784881) |
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Date: March 31st, 2026 9:45 PM Author: Hairraiser range so he still ends up with a DWI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49784899) |
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Date: March 31st, 2026 9:47 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm Okay, I lol'd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49784911) |
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Date: March 31st, 2026 10:02 PM Author: Dashing rebellious library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49784977) |
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Date: March 31st, 2026 10:56 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49785048) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Awkward Grizzly Place Of Business Gas Station lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49785999) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786002) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 3:00 PM Author: Pontificating unhinged legal warrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786596) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:07 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786758) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 8:10 AM Author: stimulating alpha nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49785394) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:16 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm Can’t see this username without LOLing, ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49785988) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 8:13 AM Author: snowy headpube Go on... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49785406) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:16 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49785989) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:31 PM Author: aromatic dark piazza indirect expression (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786067) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:32 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786073) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm Who would his Anna Kendrick be in that case? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786000) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:19 PM Author: Hairraiser range some azn 7 who is also an accountant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786008) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:19 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm I understand and wish to continue. 🐯 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786010) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 1:48 PM Author: Dashing rebellious library He’s been married to Natalie for 22 years now. Before kids she also worked at PwC in HR. She spent two years post-college in MFH living it up, before moving back to ATL to “be closer to family” which is obviously code for daddy wouldn’t subsidize her rent past her 25th birthday. She reconnected with Tiger, who she’d known in passing as undergrads at UGA for the two years they overlapped, via the country club. She was a Tri Delt and keeps her hair just as blonde and coiffed at 48 as she did at 18. Yoga pants and Pilates. Range Rovers. Golden Retreivers. Three kids in private school. Buckhead home. Litchfield beach house. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786365) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 1:57 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm 1800000000000000000000000000000000000000000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786389) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 1:58 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm wouldn’t subsidize her rent past her 25th birthday tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786392) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 2:51 PM Author: Big area faggot firefighter Many Such Cases! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786566) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 3:48 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786722) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 1:59 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm “Yoga pants and Pilates. Range Rovers. Golden Retreivers.”
Made my day with this part, tyvm |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 2:19 PM Author: Hairraiser range are big 4 partners balling that hard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786474) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 2:34 PM Author: canary contagious jewess crotch Their wives are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786522) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 3:48 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786724) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:00 PM Author: Dashing rebellious library Cr. And our universe Tiger has like a 200 foot Westport yacht. Leveraging his life to the absolute hilt is hardcoded into his DNA. Absolute ancestral memory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786746) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:03 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm Leveraging his life to the absolute hilt
And
Absolute ancestral memory
IRL involuntary laughter while standing in line at Chipotle, ty for your cyber service |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:16 PM Author: hateful theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786788) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:31 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786843) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 2:21 PM Author: pearl multi-billionaire mad cow disease Holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786480) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 3:48 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786725) |
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Date: March 31st, 2026 9:34 PM Author: Soul-stirring mentally impaired cuckoldry nico harris (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49784858) |
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Date: March 31st, 2026 9:41 PM Author: wonderful flushed corn cake He's too competitive to not be in something like sales. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49784888) |
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Date: March 31st, 2026 9:43 PM Author: Gold Mad-dog Skullcap I don't think anyone asked for a retarded brown piece of shit to chime in, so fuck off goat nigger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49784892) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 2:52 PM Author: Big area faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786568) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:16 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49785995) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 8:08 AM Author: Tan Overrated Jew just a big kid who never grew up like that Tom Hanks character (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49785387) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 8:13 AM Author: Emerald Wrinkle sober (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49785404) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:16 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm Whoa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49785991) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:20 PM Author: Massive dingle berry genx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786011) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:24 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm wtf I love genx now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786036) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:41 PM Author: Abnormal theater factory reset button Military. There was some article a few years back about how he became obsessed with the Navy SEALs and would train with them in his off time. He apparently talked about leaving golf to try and become one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786104) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 12:45 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm 180, I’d forgotten about that
Seems like he knows on some level that a structured disciplined existence is what works best for him, but can’t find the consistent motivation to do it |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 2:21 PM Author: pearl multi-billionaire mad cow disease Haha imagine being like that lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786479) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:07 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm ;-) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786757) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 5:15 PM Author: pearl multi-billionaire mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786966) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:01 PM Author: Beta principal's office His dad was a SEAL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786750) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:08 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm The most prestigious tiger woods ancestral heritage discussion board in the world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786760) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2026 10:25 AM Author: deranged box office tiger's ancestry is kinda crazy. his black dad was a quarter chinese and his azn mom a quarter white(dutch iirc) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49788749) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2026 10:19 AM Author: deranged box office earl woods was an army SFmo aka green beret. tiger wanted to be a SEAL though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49788736) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:01 PM Author: Beta principal's office That's how he got injured, doing fantasy camp SEAL workouts. The SEALs thought he was a dweeb and he wouldn't buy them drinks or dinner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786748) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:09 PM Author: Abnormal theater factory reset button There is probably an alternate universe where he never does the SEAL workouts and wins 20 majors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786771) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:30 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786841) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2026 9:15 AM Author: Beta principal's office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49788604) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 4:16 PM Author: Aphrodisiac laser beams your forgetting one serious factor - tiger woods is a bitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786791) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 2:00 PM Author: concupiscible indigo community account bald, ugly, lonely, and talentless... basically CharlesXII (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786398) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 3:41 PM Author: Claret metal party of the first part mother Pro eSports player (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786704) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 3:49 PM Author: Fishy Theater Stage Pisswyrm 🤯🤯🤯 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786726) |
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Date: April 1st, 2026 5:21 PM Author: comical dopamine he'd run a roofing company and upcharge first-time homeowners on everything fucking thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49786986) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2026 9:37 AM Author: Slimy locale dragon Probably less than a lot of poasters ITT seem to think. Dude has no natural people skills. "According to author Armen Keteyian, Woods asked Jordan how to talk to women when they went to clubs. “Michael, to ever-loving credit, goes, ‘You tell them you’re Tiger Woods,’" https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2021-01-17/tiger-woods-documentary-hbo-takeaways |
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Date: April 2nd, 2026 9:41 AM Author: Hairraiser range lol jordan is 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49788660) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2026 10:21 AM Author: fiercely-loyal heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49788738) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2026 10:51 AM Author: aromatic dark piazza indirect expression He’s a dork but his floor would be pretty high. Being an American-born straight black guy with a 4 year degree who doesn’t make whites uncomfortable is a pretty hard hand to screw up. He’s just the right age too, he would have been plucked from middle to upper management during the great DEI push. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49788793) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2026 10:22 AM Author: deranged box office military then HS teacher and track/cross country coach who bangs the kids moms and maybe some of the teen girls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49788741) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2026 6:59 PM Author: brilliant keepsake machete nibblets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49791961) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2026 10:44 PM Author: Aphrodisiac laser beams how are people saying "military"? he is a bitch faggot . his entire life is being coddled and privileged. you think he's gonna relate to Darnell Washington or Essay Chavez in the barracks?
the dude literally got hurt multiple times playing GOLF |
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Date: April 3rd, 2026 10:38 AM Author: Mind-boggling balding half-breed orchestra pit its because by most accounts his father was a hard ass dude who grew up black and poor then had a prestigious military career. tiger is more like his asain mom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49790902) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2026 10:59 AM Author: Aphrodisiac laser beams "tiger is more like his asain mom."
exactly. like I said he's a bitch |
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Date: April 3rd, 2026 10:44 AM Author: Tan Overrated Jew here in Brussels it is being reported he called 47 from his cellphone just before the cop arrested him-- hopefully the story is false or misleading (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49790919) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2026 4:51 PM Author: deranged box office ? hes like that because he is good at golf.
imo this thread is about what hed be like if he wasnt good at it |
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Date: April 3rd, 2026 5:41 PM Author: Aphrodisiac laser beams he's naturally a bitch. you can tell. does anything about him seem tough to you? of course its extreme because of golf privilege you are correct there. He didnt get the tough black qualities and disciplined asain qualities that would make a 180 soldier. Instead he got the soft effiminate asain qualities and the entitled black qualities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5852177&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49791742) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2026 5:52 PM Author: deranged box office i agree somewhat.
dont think he'd be the SOF badass he dreamed of becoming but i still see the regular guy version of him at least joining |