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What would a civil war look like with two blue coasts and a red middle

Divided blue forces or a war on two fronts?
Violet Cuckoldry Dragon
  02/02/17
just walk outside bro
vigorous abode
  01/07/26
america isnt 10 years into a civil war. thats just nyuug gob...
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it's meaningless to think about without accounting for the m...
multi-colored hall partner
  02/02/17
You'd lose all your forces on the coasts, but have a lot of ...
shivering well-lubricated base
  02/02/17
How many faggot libs can fire a gun? 3 or 4 total?
Nubile Navy Sneaky Criminal Selfie
  02/02/17
It stands to reason that the nigs would fight for libs.
wonderful house-broken church filthpig
  08/15/17
so like 5 or 6 then.
Fragrant rebellious keepsake machete
  08/15/17
keep in mind that you don't have more than 50 miles outside ...
Chartreuse Spot
  02/02/17
control the roads and rails going to the city, wait 3 days f...
chrome bat-shit-crazy party of the first part
  02/02/17
But what about our wine and nuts?
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and avocado toast - don't forget the avocado toast and lu...
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How could they tell? Many of those areas are already post-ap...
cream buck-toothed mood
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"control the roads and rails going to the city" ...
electric amethyst parlour
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Red would win easily (assuming no foreign intervention).
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razzmatazz dull faggotry
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A clean territorial split like that doesn't work today. It w...
bright misanthropic dog poop
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markets would crash, trade systems would crumble, the fall i...
mildly autistic degenerate
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(Guy who gets it)
electric amethyst parlour
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yeah, it would look a lot more like practically every other ...
Fragrant rebellious keepsake machete
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The U.S. has always been a lucky country, and our remarkably...
bright misanthropic dog poop
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interesting
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"left no permanent harm" Sure, just 90+ years o...
electric amethyst parlour
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Exactly. Which is why a second civil war would be a race wa...
Mint Personal Credit Line Garrison
  08/15/17
sure dumb fuck, whitey will be completely unified. just as t...
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SHOTS FIRED
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I guess the other guy is running "Dumb as Fuck" sh...
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Fallout 3 at best at worst no life left
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Cauldron Battle
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grits all of a sudden the most popular dish in LA/Seattle/Bo...
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lmao good luck getting even the simplest merger or acquisiti...
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Do red states know how to grow anything besides rice and sor...
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Blue states would have all the money and international suppo...
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To be fair, Oh look -- an absolutely retarded hot take fr...
Pungent doctorate psychic
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Wouldn't really be coasts vs. middle America so much as it w...
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If their state is red, they will be driven by big cities. ...
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Most of the economic firepower is driven by white men who ar...
Galvanic Ivory Hairy Legs
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It'd look a lot like that video of the MAGA guy throwing hay...
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You ever see disco fries eat oreos
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Date: February 2nd, 2017 2:56 AM
Author: Violet Cuckoldry Dragon

Divided blue forces or a war on two fronts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#32525129)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: vigorous abode

just walk outside bro

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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:29 PM
Author: vigorous abode

america isnt 10 years into a civil war. thats just nyuug gobbledygook

https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3702611&mc=230&forum_id=2#33999807

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49570779)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:37 PM
Author: vigorous abode

It's absolutely fine.

Date: January 29th, 2017 9:49 PM

Author: lawman8

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508473&forum_id=2#32494554

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49570809)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 9:14 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 7th, 2026 10:02 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:37 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:28 AM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:44 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:54 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:12 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:28 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:42 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:55 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:25 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:49 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:01 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:56 PM
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Date: January 11th, 2026 7:07 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:35 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 13th, 2026 6:41 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:56 PM
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Date: January 14th, 2026 10:07 PM
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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 19th, 2026 6:54 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 21st, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 25th, 2026 6:41 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 26th, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 26th, 2026 6:34 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 26th, 2026 7:52 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: January 29th, 2026 5:41 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: February 1st, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:56 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 7:09 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: February 4th, 2026 7:45 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:52 PM
Author: vigorous abode



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 2:57 AM
Author: multi-colored hall partner

it's meaningless to think about without accounting for the military.

assuming the military is not a participant, it's an effete coast bloodbath.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#32525137)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 2:58 AM
Author: shivering well-lubricated base

You'd lose all your forces on the coasts, but have a lot of unmanned equipment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#32525138)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 3:01 AM
Author: Nubile Navy Sneaky Criminal Selfie

How many faggot libs can fire a gun? 3 or 4 total?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#32525155)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:47 PM
Author: wonderful house-broken church filthpig

It stands to reason that the nigs would fight for libs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33995607)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:48 PM
Author: Fragrant rebellious keepsake machete

so like 5 or 6 then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33995609)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 3:03 AM
Author: Chartreuse Spot

keep in mind that you don't have more than 50 miles outside la, sf, portland, or seattle to find very conservative people who would fight against those in the urban centers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#32525166)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 3:06 AM
Author: chrome bat-shit-crazy party of the first part

control the roads and rails going to the city, wait 3 days for cities to run out of food, watch lib areas degenerate into cannibalism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#32525185)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 3:07 AM
Author: shivering well-lubricated base

But what about our wine and nuts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#32525188)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 5:37 AM
Author: greedy buff locale mediation



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:50 PM
Author: Ultramarine skinny woman really tough guy

and avocado toast - don't forget the avocado toast

and lube and medical supplies for IBS and HIV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33995626)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:53 PM
Author: Chest-beating adventurous native puppy



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 5:28 AM
Author: cream buck-toothed mood

How could they tell? Many of those areas are already post-apocalyptic hellscapes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#32525593)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: electric amethyst parlour

"control the roads and rails going to the city"

Nigger, you do know that people in Blue cities own guns with lots of bullets, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49574056)



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Date: February 2nd, 2017 5:37 AM
Author: Spectacular flatulent depressive persian

Red would win easily (assuming no foreign intervention).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#32525601)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:32 PM
Author: razzmatazz dull faggotry



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:35 PM
Author: bright misanthropic dog poop

A clean territorial split like that doesn't work today. It worked in 1860 because Southern whites were overwhelmingly on board with the secession effort. Right now every state has at least a 25% minority supporting the other side and in most states it's more like a 40% minority or even larger. It would just be an absolute chaotic bloodbath everywhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33995496)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:37 PM
Author: mildly autistic degenerate

markets would crash, trade systems would crumble, the fall into anarchy wouldn't take long at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33995512)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: electric amethyst parlour

(Guy who gets it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49574054)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:49 PM
Author: Fragrant rebellious keepsake machete

yeah, it would look a lot more like practically every other civil war; a lot of bloodshed and terrorism across the entire nation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33995623)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:52 PM
Author: bright misanthropic dog poop

The U.S. has always been a lucky country, and our remarkably smooth civil war is a chief example of that. It was bloody, but lasted just 4 years, permanently settled the question the war began over, and left no permanent harm. Most countries are not nearly as lucky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33995644)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 5:46 PM
Author: slippery blue chapel

interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33996103)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: electric amethyst parlour

"left no permanent harm"

Sure, just 90+ years of domestic terrorism and government sanctioned segregation, but no big deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49574058)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 6:03 PM
Author: Mint Personal Credit Line Garrison

Exactly. Which is why a second civil war would be a race war. Black/Brown/Asian vs. White will be the new Mason Dixon line...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33996221)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:39 PM
Author: effete rusted school cafeteria new version

sure dumb fuck, whitey will be completely unified. just as they are now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49571178)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:47 PM
Author: vigorous abode

SHOTS FIRED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49571202)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: electric amethyst parlour

I guess the other guy is running "Dumb as Fuck" shctick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49574059)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:38 PM
Author: Titillating cowardly digit ratio

Fallout 3 at best

at worst no life left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33995521)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:46 PM
Author: Mind-boggling sapphire university

Cauldron Battle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33995593)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 6:00 PM
Author: Emerald Famous Landscape Painting

grits all of a sudden the most popular dish in LA/Seattle/Boston, why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33996201)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 6:04 PM
Author: slippery blue chapel

lmao good luck getting even the simplest merger or acquisition done in red America. Do those cretins even know what a poison pill is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#33996232)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:46 PM
Author: Marvelous twinkling trailer park legend

Do red states know how to grow anything besides rice and sorghum?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49571200)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: Marvelous twinkling trailer park legend

Blue states would have all the money and international support. They'd also have all the doctors, engineers and other skilled trades. Lazy stupid shitcons would either get hungry and defect or die from untreated diseases/lack of medicine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49571191)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 10:17 PM
Author: Pungent doctorate psychic

To be fair,

Oh look -- an absolutely retarded hot take from our resident bort Jewish shitlib schizophrenic. Wow, I'm shocked!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3512934&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49574388)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:03 PM
Author: Galvanic Ivory Hairy Legs

Wouldn't really be coasts vs. middle America so much as it would be rural + suburban vs. urban. If anything, cities could have their supplies cut off and then they'd fall apart because of internal chaos driven by their demographic mix.

Big money power would probably welcome the fall of mega dysfunctional blue city governments. The idea that "the coasts" are filled with these left leaning Men of Action is plainly retarded. All of these types of men are right leaning, regardless of how their state votes. And even then, if their state is blue, how much of that is driven by demographic realities in a few big cities?

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Date: January 8th, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: electric amethyst parlour

If their state is red, they will be driven by big cities.

What cities do you think represent the economic engine in Mississippi? It ain't Coffeeville.

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Date: January 11th, 2026 7:54 PM
Author: Galvanic Ivory Hairy Legs

Most of the economic firepower is driven by white men who are much further to the right than the rest of the population. Overall economic prowess is dependent on people who are conservative more generally.

Places like NYC are blue because of demographics - and these demographics will chimp out when their supply lines are cut off.

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Date: January 11th, 2026 7:22 PM
Author: light theatre feces

who cares

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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:58 PM
Author: Contagious lettuce

It'd look a lot like that video of the MAGA guy throwing haymakers at protesters.

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Date: February 4th, 2026 7:46 PM
Author: I am God

You ever see disco fries eat oreos

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