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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: house-broken lay Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: heady associate church just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: heady associate church (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49425543) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49436785) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49463581) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: heady associate church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49493000) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: thriller space Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: At-the-ready property idea he suggested Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: thriller space (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: At-the-ready property idea he suggested They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: thriller space read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: shimmering factory reset button Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49065184) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: domesticated well-lubricated coffee pot marketing idea what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48970037) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: sapphire tripping party of the first part set I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48985033) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Titillating Theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: chestnut histrionic meetinghouse i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: talented violet parlor Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: mind-boggling twinkling stain partner really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: razzle claret becky It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: sticky mediation church building it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: razzle claret becky Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: mind-boggling twinkling stain partner actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: trip french chef 13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails
you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: trip french chef "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49838410) |