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Int'l Law hypo: Iran closes Strait of Hormuz..
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:00 PM Author: mauve stead U.S. responds w/ military force. OK under intl law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20052778) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:01 PM Author: Slimy hell What is an international law bro? Sounds like flame to me brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20052784) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:06 PM Author: mauve stead def. flame. pretend article 38 of ICJ means something for a moment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20052832) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:02 PM Author: boyish library Article 2 of the UN Charter:
All members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:07 PM Author: mauve stead Carter Doctrine says fuck off to the applicability of this article. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20052845) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:11 PM Author: Provocative Opaque Old Irish Cottage Point Also violates Kellog-Briand Pact <-- although this is soft law. (not that all intl. law can't be regarded as soft law) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20052875) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:33 PM Author: Provocative Opaque Old Irish Cottage Point couldn't you argue the 2-mile wide shipping lane is international territory given the fact that so much of the world's oil flows through it each day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20054040) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:41 PM Author: Comical hairless station explosive warheads generally cannot be argued against.
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:09 PM Author: vibrant juggernaut is the underlying principle here that a territory is international if a substantial proportion of the world's supply of an important commodity passes through the territory? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20054312) |
Date: February 25th, 2012 7:12 PM Author: Comical hairless station the strait is actually iranian territorial waters (21 miles across, well within the 200 mile water limits) shared jointly with UAE etc as it falls under all the countries territorial waters. they dont have to close it. all they have to do is say they will randomly fire a few hundred rounds from an artillery cannon with a 15 mile range across the strait every day. good luck getting insurance for your ships after that.
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:13 PM Author: boyish library http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_seas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20052895) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:15 PM Author: Comical hairless station freedom to hold naval exercises (like randomly firing a few hundred shells...) is not prohibited by that article mang. also the high seas are not territorial waters.
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:16 PM Author: Provocative Opaque Old Irish Cottage Point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20052914) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:20 PM Author: pearl filthy electric furnace ceo It's treated like the high seas because it's a strait necessary for international commercial intercourse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20052947) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:51 PM Author: vermilion chapel wtf. territorial waters go out 12 miles, not 200 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20053111) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:56 PM Author: mind-boggling brethren field are you guys this dumb? blockading a country is an act of war closing the straights of hormuz is a naval blockade of Kuwait and Iraq, two of our allies. act of war against our allies may be treated as an act of war against the United States. the U.S. navy crushes the Iranian Navy and military withing 200 miles of the straits in about 12 hours. |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 8:30 PM Author: mauve stead not to mention the fact that ~20 billion barrels of oil flow out of it each day. Wouldn't criticality of global commerce trump some vague territorial claims? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20053504) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:36 PM Author: Comical hairless station land based cruise missiles with passive IR seekers trump your vague "criticality of global commerce" claims.
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:09 PM Author: mauve stead bro, this is a discussion about intl law. Everyone here knows that intl law lacks an enforcement mechanism and is worthless, not to mention the fact that it has been rendered historically moot by numerous armed conflicts without any reprisal from international bodies. I am simply wondering about which intl. laws would apply in this scenario, not whether or not anyone would give a fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20054318) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:10 PM Author: vibrant juggernaut tbf, *masturbates furiously* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20054326) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:49 PM Author: big-titted hairy legs Wait for Iran to inevitably mine the strait or launch a missile or send out a speedboat-----Article 51 self-defense justification for use of force, bam. Tehran turns into a crater. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20054160) |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:56 PM Author: Comical hairless station hence the iranian push to get nuclear warheads built.
you crater us, we crater you.
its how MAD works.
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:02 PM Author: adventurous shimmering den travel guidebook lol iran can't crater shit
noICBMpwnd |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:05 PM Author: mind-boggling brethren field lol. even if iran developed nukes, or even if they developed ICBMs, we could utterly wipe them off the face of the map before they knew what hit them. 1. if we launched nukes from subs right off their coasts, there is no way they would detect them soon enough to launch a counterstrike 2. alternatively, we could have black ops smuggle some nukes into the country and detonate them at iran's nuclear silos. 3. or, of course, the united states could just drop some nukes from a B2 bomber |
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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:16 PM Author: dashing honey-headed immigrant THis is why ron paul's foreign policy makes sense ... and why the fear mongering re iranian nuclear capability is retarded. Largely about isreal's discomfort with a nuclear armed iran really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#20054371) |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 3:30 AM Author: Gay of Hormuz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49731211) |