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i think computers have made reality impossible to inhabit

i am not elaborating at this time
irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
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Shaky location
  06/25/26
Oh well
Crimson Resort Indirect Expression
  06/22/26
i wrote an essay like 15 years ago about how the real world ...
floppy base twinkling uncleanness
  06/22/26
that's true but my thesis is deeper and structural. It's not...
irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
how so specifically
floppy base twinkling uncleanness
  06/22/26
i am not elaborating at this time
irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
Baudrillard associates each of those distortions of reality ...
Crimson Resort Indirect Expression
  06/22/26
Baudrillard is a faggot
irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
yeah so
Crimson Resort Indirect Expression
  06/22/26
180000000
Comical twisted gay wizard
  06/22/26
he actually had some decent ideas tbqh imho
floppy base twinkling uncleanness
  06/22/26
dudeweed
irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content...
Walnut flatulent quadroon
  06/22/26
ty, so this is where that faggot yarvin came up with "t...
Crimson Resort Indirect Expression
  06/22/26
This op reminded of a different Borges story On Exactitud...
Garnet kitty cat
  06/22/26
My own view is that Stage Five is active, but that not every...
pea-brained mood deer antler
  06/22/26
doesn't sound like a very deep and structural thesis i ca...
floppy base twinkling uncleanness
  06/22/26
There's not a necessary relationship between "outcompet...
irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
the latter is a 'why' contributor to the former imho amon...
floppy base twinkling uncleanness
  06/22/26
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300078152/seeing-like-a-...
Walnut flatulent quadroon
  06/22/26
hmmmm. maybe you should. it concerns me that so few others a...
floppy base twinkling uncleanness
  06/22/26
Ok thank you for elaborating. Tankh,
irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
living irl sometimes is actually fun and crrrr imho
Flushed Boiling Water Fortuitous Meteor
  06/22/26
"see you there"
irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
if I inhabited it
Flushed Boiling Water Fortuitous Meteor
  06/22/26
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irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
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Walnut flatulent quadroon
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Shaky location
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  06/25/26
This is why I tell my wife when she nags me for my screen ti...
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  06/22/26
if "reality" didn't suck this would have never hap...
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  06/22/26
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irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
he literally just repeated what i already wrote in the threa...
floppy base twinkling uncleanness
  06/22/26
he's more concise i guess idk
irate excitant candlestick maker
  06/22/26
I think it’s designed to suck for like 90% of people a...
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  06/23/26
I think it just inherently sucks. Any "design" is ...
Obsidian Ape Gaming Laptop
  06/23/26
Thank you, Computer.
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker

i am not elaborating at this time

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Date: June 25th, 2026 1:48 PM
Author: Shaky location



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 2:51 PM
Author: Crimson Resort Indirect Expression

Oh well

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:01 PM
Author: floppy base twinkling uncleanness

i wrote an essay like 15 years ago about how the real world would increasingly be out-competed by Online matrix worlds as environments for humans to inhabit

i was completely right and i wish i could find that essay again. it's somewhere out there, Online

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49955689)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker

that's true but my thesis is deeper and structural. It's not just that Online is better, it's that Online has fundamentally altered our ability to inhabit physical reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49955721)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: floppy base twinkling uncleanness

how so specifically

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker

i am not elaborating at this time

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:17 PM
Author: Crimson Resort Indirect Expression

Baudrillard associates each of those distortions of reality with periods of increasing technical sophistication:

Stage one and two: Associated with the premodern period, it’s representation is an artificial placemarker for the real item. The uniqueness of objects and situations marks them as real and signification gropes towards this reality.

Stage three: Associated with the modernity of the Industrial Revolution where distinctions between representation and reality break down due to the proliferation of mass-reproducible copies of items, turning them into commodities. The commodity's ability to imitate reality threatens to replace the authority of the original version, because the copy is just as "real" as its prototype.

Stage four: Associated with the postmodernity of late capitalism where the simulacrum precedes the original and the distinction between reality and representation vanishes. There is only the simulation, and originality becomes a totally meaningless concept.

(Proposed stage five: The simulation reorders underlying reality to act in accordance with it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49955728)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker

Baudrillard is a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49955730)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: Crimson Resort Indirect Expression

yeah so

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: Comical twisted gay wizard

180000000

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:40 PM
Author: floppy base twinkling uncleanness

he actually had some decent ideas tbqh imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49955900)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:41 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker

dudeweed

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Walnut flatulent quadroon

https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content/uploads/sites/226/2015/12/Borges-Tl%C3%B6n-Uqbar-Orbius-Tertius.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49955734)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: Crimson Resort Indirect Expression

ty, so this is where that faggot yarvin came up with "tlon" as his programming language for urbit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49955739)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Garnet kitty cat

This op reminded of a different Borges story

On Exactitude in Science

Jorge Luis Borges, Collected Fictions, translated by Andrew Hurley.

…In that Empire, the Art of Cartography attained such Perfection that the map of a single Province occupied the entirety of a City, and the map of the Empire, the entirety of a Province. In time, those Unconscionable Maps no longer satisfied, and the Cartographers Guilds struck a Map of the Empire whose size was that of the Empire, and which coincided point for point with it. The following Generations, who were not so fond of the Study of Cartography as their Forebears had been, saw that that vast Map was Useless, and not without some Pitilessness was it, that they delivered it up to the Inclemencies of Sun and Winters. In the Deserts of the West, still today, there are Tattered Ruins of that Map, inhabited by Animals and Beggars; in all the Land there is no other Relic of the Disciplines of Geography.

—Suarez Miranda,Viajes devarones prudentes, Libro IV,Cap. XLV, Lerida, 1658

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:02 PM
Author: pea-brained mood deer antler

My own view is that Stage Five is active, but that not everyone operates within it. Feels like an 80/20 rule (or maybe 90/10) where the majority is basically programmed like a wind-up toy by The Internet and a subset still operate in the Real World. As much as technology dominates, there is still a "handshake" element to a lot of business and major deals.

This probably sounds super Boomer, but you may know what I mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49955798)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:27 PM
Author: floppy base twinkling uncleanness

doesn't sound like a very deep and structural thesis

i can think of a bunch of reasons off the top of my head though. but they can all be more or less boiled down to artificial online realities out-competing real-reality (the 'why's' are pretty important though)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49955741)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:29 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker

There's not a necessary relationship between "outcompeting reality" and "fundamentally altering man's relationship with reality."

My thesis is therefore deeper and more structural than your weak, non-load-bearing one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310751#49955742)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:35 PM
Author: floppy base twinkling uncleanness

the latter is a 'why' contributor to the former imho

among other things, The Matrix(es) becoming preferable to irl for humans has been a self-fulfilling prophecy in no small part due to the matrix warping the real world. it's a feedback loop that has been and is continuing to intensify

you can't improve irl in order to try to out-compete the matrix fair and square. irl will just be adjusted accordingly by the matrix in response. the feedback loop has to be destroyed, which means that the matrix itself has to be destroyed

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:57 PM
Author: Walnut flatulent quadroon

https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300078152/seeing-like-a-state/

I look forward to your 2028 magnum opus "Seeing Like A Computer"

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: floppy base twinkling uncleanness

hmmmm. maybe you should. it concerns me that so few others are able or willing to See as The Machine sees

just another abyss that people love to pontificate and joke about but won't actually look into

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:17 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker

Ok thank you for elaborating.

Tankh,

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: Flushed Boiling Water Fortuitous Meteor

living irl sometimes is actually fun and crrrr imho

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker

"see you there"

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: Flushed Boiling Water Fortuitous Meteor

if I inhabited it

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:33 PM
Author: Walnut flatulent quadroon



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Date: June 23rd, 2026 1:37 AM
Author: Shaky location



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Date: June 25th, 2026 9:24 PM
Author: galvanic factory reset button ticket booth



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: amber out-of-control stage azn

This is why I tell my wife when she nags me for my screen time

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:45 PM
Author: Obsidian Ape Gaming Laptop

if "reality" didn't suck this would have never happened. that's what all these brands of societal complaints and fist-waving don't want to admit. we got here BECAUSE reality is dreadful and depressing.

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: floppy base twinkling uncleanness

he literally just repeated what i already wrote in the thread and you blank bumped him

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:49 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker

he's more concise i guess idk

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Date: June 23rd, 2026 10:59 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal erotic casino goyim

I think it’s designed to suck for like 90% of people and nobody cares. It’s just a thing that people implicitly want. Like every prole wants their town to win football championships or to at least not be mogged. So they support the Clique System. There’s a lane for Jocks, for Nerds, and so on. Jocks need to get laid in order to make the next generation able to win championships. This is more important than intact families or liberal arts. A Scumjock with multiple baby mamas is doing gods work. The midwestern rust belt towns that have collapsed did so because of an over-reliance on Scumbags. Society learned and adapted. Instead of kids Playing Outside while their dads Forge things out of Iron, they Play Inside or are driven to Practice or extracurricular activities which help them ace OCI. The country became less Scummy. This era was ushered in by grunge and NAFTA. The 32x was catastrophically mistimed bc it debuted after the Scum era had ended.

Before they get distracted by gay/race stuff libs realize this and are like, “uh, guys…” but then they get co-opted.

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Date: June 23rd, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: Obsidian Ape Gaming Laptop

I think it just inherently sucks. Any "design" is not by way of human agency imo. We are just sad little puppets dancing in a ramshackle theater overseen by a Blind Idiot God (see Boomers, now THAT'S poetry)

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: Beady-eyed brethren spot

Thank you, Computer.

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:49 PM
Author: Shaky location



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:49 PM
Author: irate excitant candlestick maker



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:50 PM
Author: amber out-of-control stage azn



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:53 PM
Author: Flushed Boiling Water Fortuitous Meteor



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 7:01 PM
Author: Curious smoky den



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Date: June 23rd, 2026 1:37 AM
Author: galvanic factory reset button ticket booth



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