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why do people think logic games is so improvable?

this doesnt really make sense. there's nothing esoter...
insane main people
  03/08/12
the diagramming, being a retard who doesn't instinctively ge...
turquoise headpube
  03/08/12
...
Flesh volcanic crater
  03/08/12
also you get much better at them just by doing around 20-30
Flesh volcanic crater
  03/08/12
wouldnt you naturally diagram if it seemed necessary?
insane main people
  03/08/12
I don't know, there are different ways to diagram, and you m...
turquoise headpube
  03/08/12
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6
Dark Native Nowag
  03/08/12
STFU doobs
Adulterous potus station
  03/08/12
doobs would murder everyone on this chatblog if he could hav...
insane main people
  03/08/12
what did you get breh? what kind of score would you guarante...
Adulterous potus station
  03/08/12
should i do this? im not a law student and not looking ...
insane main people
  03/08/12
breh you didn't answer like any of my questions. the issue ...
Adulterous potus station
  03/08/12
would they really breh? im not a lawyer so i dont know
insane main people
  03/08/12
you'd catch a felony charge and the feds might get involved ...
Adulterous potus station
  03/08/12
jesus, breh. id probably charge at least 25k in that ca...
insane main people
  03/08/12
too much money. no one's paying you $25k because you got a 1...
Adulterous potus station
  03/08/12
fuck. i dont want to go to jail, though.
insane main people
  03/08/12
probably shouldn't take the SAT for bros then. although like...
Adulterous potus station
  03/08/12
because there's only 4 or 5 common setups - people who origi...
underhanded bronze office
  03/08/12
but if youre dumb enough to really suck at it then i think t...
insane main people
  03/08/12
not to a lot of reasonably bright ppl, actually
turquoise headpube
  03/08/12
because you learn the few techniques and frameworks necessar...
Concupiscible Pervert Piazza
  03/08/12
wheres the "technique" or "framework" th...
insane main people
  03/08/12
unless you automatically know how to efficiently symbolicall...
Concupiscible Pervert Piazza
  03/08/12
havent these people been doing symbolic representation/manip...
insane main people
  03/08/12
i had very little experience with it the first time i'd ever...
Concupiscible Pervert Piazza
  03/08/12
because once you learn to ignore all the stuff about "a...
Diverse greedy institution telephone
  03/08/12
what requires a book/class/tutor to teach you this shit?
insane main people
  03/08/12
lacking a logical cast of mind
turquoise headpube
  03/08/12
in which case youre fucked anyway, right? im not doubti...
insane main people
  03/08/12
nope, not fucked anyway. we can only repeat the same cycle o...
turquoise headpube
  03/08/12
but theres no evidence im wrong. the lsats are pretty s...
insane main people
  03/08/12
you know that raw scores haven't improved/that the test hasn...
turquoise headpube
  03/08/12
no, i havent seen evidence of this.
insane main people
  03/08/12
all the evidence indicates ur wrong u dumbshit.
razzle aqua chapel
  03/08/12
i don't think you need a book or a class necessarily, just s...
Diverse greedy institution telephone
  03/08/12
because shit tons of people improve on it by reading the LG ...
Obsidian stirring resort
  03/08/12
i guess this is what i kind of doubt
insane main people
  03/08/12
it's a fact though
turquoise headpube
  03/08/12
im guessing the lsac doesnt admit this.
insane main people
  03/08/12
yeah I imagine they don't advertise it
turquoise headpube
  03/08/12
do you think everyone on TLS is gaining 10+ points by placeb...
Obsidian stirring resort
  03/08/12
i dont think people are gaining a ton of points. otherwise t...
insane main people
  03/08/12
lol every1 is just lieing faggot.
razzle aqua chapel
  03/08/12
i don't think it's as easy to improve as some people say.
Diverse greedy institution telephone
  03/08/12
I think some ppl find it easy and others find it hard
turquoise headpube
  03/08/12
yes
Diverse greedy institution telephone
  03/08/12
The average LSAT taker has never heard of TLS or LG Bible. I...
Obsidian stirring resort
  03/08/12
...
turquoise headpube
  03/08/12
def. worth it to work on games now, in 2026, FOR SURE
nyuug
  02/19/26


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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: insane main people

this doesnt really make sense.

there's nothing esoteric about a logic game. the only difficulty is the time limit. what techniques are supposed to improve this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20159725)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: turquoise headpube

the diagramming, being a retard who doesn't instinctively get what a contrapositive is and learning it from an lsat logic games "bible"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20159728)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:19 PM
Author: Flesh volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20159743)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Flesh volcanic crater

also you get much better at them just by doing around 20-30

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20159746)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:22 PM
Author: insane main people

wouldnt you naturally diagram if it seemed necessary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160373)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: turquoise headpube

I don't know, there are different ways to diagram, and you might not realize that diagramming's more efficient. I actually didn't diagram, just got one wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160388)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: Dark Native Nowag

http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20159729)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Adulterous potus station

STFU doobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20159753)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: insane main people

doobs would murder everyone on this chatblog if he could have me take the lsat for him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160380)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:24 PM
Author: Adulterous potus station

what did you get breh? what kind of score would you guarantee? it would be awesome as fukkkk if i could take the LSAT for people. i think i could get $5,000 per administration if there was a good way to hook up with clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160398)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: insane main people

should i do this?

im not a law student and not looking to ever be admitted to the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160425)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: Adulterous potus station

breh you didn't answer like any of my questions. the issue isn't really whether you can get admitted to a bar, but whether they will throw your ass in motherfucking jail if you get caught.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160443)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:28 PM
Author: insane main people

would they really breh? im not a lawyer so i dont know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160449)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: Adulterous potus station

you'd catch a felony charge and the feds might get involved if you were crossing state lines to do it. i'd say there's a good chance they do give you some time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160460)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: insane main people

jesus, breh.

id probably charge at least 25k in that case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160484)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:33 PM
Author: Adulterous potus station

too much money. no one's paying you $25k because you got a 172.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160509)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:35 PM
Author: insane main people

fuck.

i dont want to go to jail, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160538)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:37 PM
Author: Adulterous potus station

probably shouldn't take the SAT for bros then. although likelihood of getting caught would be low if you did it just a couple times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160556)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: underhanded bronze office

because there's only 4 or 5 common setups - people who originally sucked at the section can generally learn these setups, how to deal with them, and profit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160389)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:25 PM
Author: insane main people

but if youre dumb enough to really suck at it then i think the time limit would fuck you anyway.

its not like theres a linear algebra section on the lsat. i can see why studying would make a big difference there, but logic games are pretty intuitive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160413)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: turquoise headpube

not to a lot of reasonably bright ppl, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160430)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:25 PM
Author: Concupiscible Pervert Piazza

because you learn the few techniques and frameworks necessary to solve all logic games and practice applying them quickly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160416)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: insane main people

wheres the "technique" or "framework" thats not really obvious?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160433)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: Concupiscible Pervert Piazza

unless you automatically know how to efficiently symbolically represent the games on paper and manipulate those symbols towards the correct solution without going down a wrong path, practice is the only way you'll learn to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160468)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:32 PM
Author: insane main people

havent these people been doing symbolic representation/manipulation/computation since 6th grade?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160505)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Concupiscible Pervert Piazza

i had very little experience with it the first time i'd ever seen it and i have a reasonably strong math background. my scores on games the first few times i tried them were abysmal. after practice and seeing some hints and techniques for attacking them, my scores were nearly perfect.

i think the real problem is that games require a minimal level of reading comprehension and mapping the ideas to symbols, then manipulating those symbols. this is different from writing essays or doing word problems in math. i guess it's closest to writing mathematical proofs but requires lower level but quicker logical reasoning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160572)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: Diverse greedy institution telephone

because once you learn to ignore all the stuff about "apartment buildings" and "Radio Station Disc Jockeys", etc., the problems are easier to deal with in terms of logical relationships.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160431)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: insane main people

what requires a book/class/tutor to teach you this shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160440)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: turquoise headpube

lacking a logical cast of mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160459)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: insane main people

in which case youre fucked anyway, right?

im not doubting that techniques are useful to solve logic games. im doubting the kind of person who cant figure out these techniques on their own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160474)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:32 PM
Author: turquoise headpube

nope, not fucked anyway. we can only repeat the same cycle of you rephrasing your point 50 different ways and me/other ppl saying you're wrong so many times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160497)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:35 PM
Author: insane main people

but theres no evidence im wrong.

the lsats are pretty similar. and people arent doing much better despite the increase in tutoring/practice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160530)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:36 PM
Author: turquoise headpube

you know that raw scores haven't improved/that the test hasn't gotten harder over the past 15 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160550)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:42 PM
Author: insane main people

no, i havent seen evidence of this.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160622)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: razzle aqua chapel

all the evidence indicates ur wrong u dumbshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160567)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: Diverse greedy institution telephone

i don't think you need a book or a class necessarily, just seeing the format of the problems ahead of time can help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160489)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: Obsidian stirring resort

because shit tons of people improve on it by reading the LG Bible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160439)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: insane main people

i guess this is what i kind of doubt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160446)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:28 PM
Author: turquoise headpube

it's a fact though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160454)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: insane main people

im guessing the lsac doesnt admit this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160462)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: turquoise headpube

yeah I imagine they don't advertise it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160472)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: Obsidian stirring resort

do you think everyone on TLS is gaining 10+ points by placebo effect or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160490)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: insane main people

i dont think people are gaining a ton of points. otherwise the test wouldnt be breaking people over the curve so easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160520)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:36 PM
Author: razzle aqua chapel

lol every1 is just lieing faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160547)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Diverse greedy institution telephone

i don't think it's as easy to improve as some people say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160568)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: turquoise headpube

I think some ppl find it easy and others find it hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160576)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:39 PM
Author: Diverse greedy institution telephone

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160588)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:40 PM
Author: Obsidian stirring resort

The average LSAT taker has never heard of TLS or LG Bible. I gained like 11 points from my diag, almost all of it on games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160596)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:41 PM
Author: turquoise headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#20160600)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 6:45 PM
Author: nyuug

def. worth it to work on games now, in 2026, FOR SURE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49681283)