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anyone else completely addicted to seltzer water

it's all i drink anymore i've temporarily quit a few time...
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
1 per day for me for 12 years. Why would you “quit&rdq...
Idiotic sticky ticket booth
  03/06/26
I drink tap water with ice because I'm American
Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration
  03/06/26
*briefcase of gulab jamin falls out*
dull organic girlfriend round eye
  03/06/26
I don't think you understand how America outside of NYC Juda...
Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration
  03/06/26
you're obviously an angry brownoid
dull organic girlfriend round eye
  03/06/26
try asking for "water" at any american restaurant ...
Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration
  03/06/26
you seem to be esl. let me help you. YOU'RE a brownoid
dull organic girlfriend round eye
  03/06/26
sure man if you believe it's real it is real, but you can't ...
Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration
  03/06/26
wife is. she's keeping sodastream in business. 2-3 bottles o...
dull organic girlfriend round eye
  03/06/26
ive always been a seltzermo because my family was soda prole...
spruce principal's office
  03/06/26
You are such a house nigger lmao. I once wrote a thread abou...
Floppy candlestick maker jew
  03/06/26
ive poasted a lot of scholarship on my proleness. it's not l...
spruce principal's office
  03/06/26
No. We talked about this. You can only see a little prole. ...
Floppy candlestick maker jew
  03/06/26
i edited that in in like .2 secs you catty fag. it wasnt som...
spruce principal's office
  03/06/26
There is no such thing as an ascended prole. You cannot exis...
Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration
  03/06/26
im not. that would be like saying a foreigner is identical t...
spruce principal's office
  03/06/26
Y9u're not Tocqueville. You are a prole with slightly more m...
Floppy candlestick maker jew
  03/06/26
when the fuck did i say anything like that? what have i c...
spruce principal's office
  03/06/26
great sub thread, 180s to everyone involved, I really like i...
Milky hell volcanic crater
  03/06/26
its like how a foreigner is most qualified to describe the d...
Floppy candlestick maker jew
  03/06/26
now that i know you're obsessively refreshing threads ill be...
spruce principal's office
  03/06/26
Go back to rEDdIT
Floppy candlestick maker jew
  03/06/26
dont be mad i pwned you with irrefutable logic. this is why ...
spruce principal's office
  03/06/26
wow, gunnerattt ahead of the curve as usual is there anyt...
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
was addicted all last summer, it was a 180 summer
Doobsian bisexual property knife
  03/06/26
https://ibb.co/Wp49g9c8
Violet love of her life corner
  03/06/26
adolf hitler would have drank 8+ seltzer waters a day and he...
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
Hitler Pampelmousse.
Violet love of her life corner
  03/06/26
180
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
Favorite brand? Thoughts on sparkling water?
self-absorbed exciting range kitty
  03/06/26
i drink my local store brand because it's literally 1/2 the ...
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
Yes. We go through cases from Costco.
hyperventilating sienna useless brakes keepsake machete
  03/06/26
my wife is addicted to buying seltzer water then never drink...
charismatic stage yarmulke
  03/06/26
yeah women love this shit all the 180 people in the world...
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
(Continental Socialist)
Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration
  03/06/26
I very very very very highly recommend you NOT drink seltzer...
hairraiser arrogant dilemma
  03/06/26
really? i thought metal cans have *less* chemicals than plas...
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
JFC tard. Don't drink out of plastic or composite containers...
hairraiser arrogant dilemma
  03/06/26
I find fizzy water much more refreshing than plain water and...
Milky hell volcanic crater
  03/06/26
San Pelegrino is exactly what gunnerat would describe as how...
Floppy candlestick maker jew
  03/06/26
...
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
Sorry I ruined your thread BTW. Gunnerat just makes me so da...
Floppy candlestick maker jew
  03/06/26
no it's definitely gunnerattt's fault as usual
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
wait a second, San Pelegrino is a good water with a pleasant...
Milky hell volcanic crater
  03/06/26
Enjoy your peroni and aperol spritz proleass fancy prole
Floppy candlestick maker jew
  03/06/26
It destroys your teeth I have heard. The acid or something.
tan nursing home
  03/06/26
I actually asked a dentist about this and they said no. Was ...
motley hissy fit
  03/06/26
He heard a cash register noise as you asked, he's got a cust...
tan nursing home
  03/06/26
Fair point. I got fucking owned!!
motley hissy fit
  03/06/26
Whoa. Incel is credited for once Co2 becomes carbonic ac...
blathering reading party jewess
  03/06/26
I drink spendrifts almost exclusively
Massive institution bbw
  03/06/26
...
Wonderful therapy station
  03/06/26
Bunch of fuckin fag communists on this board.
Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration
  03/06/26
your brown every White person drinks this stuff now. sorr...
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
(asks for a humble bottle of pellegrino at local buffet) ...
Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration
  03/06/26
i prefer pellegrino these days
crawly market
  03/06/26
...
transparent infuriating famous landscape painting
  03/06/26
i like to mix my wine with la croix (but not while working o...
startled walnut roast beef
  03/06/26
never tried this but i have thought about it before is it...
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26
not really “good” in terms of flavor but it work...
startled walnut roast beef
  03/06/26
Fizzy water sure is crazy
slippery unholy location feces
  03/06/26


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Date: March 6th, 2026 10:55 AM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

it's all i drink anymore

i've temporarily quit a few times but i always come crawling back. it's just too fucking good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720679)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 10:58 AM
Author: Idiotic sticky ticket booth

1 per day for me for 12 years. Why would you “quit”?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720688)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:00 AM
Author: Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration

I drink tap water with ice because I'm American

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720698)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:01 AM
Author: dull organic girlfriend round eye

*briefcase of gulab jamin falls out*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720703)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:02 AM
Author: Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration

I don't think you understand how America outside of NYC Judaism works

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720709)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:04 AM
Author: dull organic girlfriend round eye

you're obviously an angry brownoid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720714)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:09 AM
Author: Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration

try asking for "water" at any american restaurant that isn't "karma sushi"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720729)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:27 AM
Author: dull organic girlfriend round eye

you seem to be esl. let me help you. YOU'RE a brownoid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720804)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:34 AM
Author: Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration

sure man if you believe it's real it is real, but you can't hide behind "hehe brownoid" in an attempt to deflect from your odious kikedom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720824)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:00 AM
Author: dull organic girlfriend round eye

wife is. she's keeping sodastream in business. 2-3 bottles of sodastream a day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720700)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:00 AM
Author: spruce principal's office

ive always been a seltzermo because my family was soda proles and flat water doesn't feel right to me. some nigger mocked me for it back in like 2005 saying "aint that wat oregnant women drink!?" but now everyone does!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720702)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:08 AM
Author: Floppy candlestick maker jew

You are such a house nigger lmao. I once wrote a thread about how prole you are just based on my prole or not prole threads

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720728)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: spruce principal's office

ive poasted a lot of scholarship on my proleness. it's not like its something i dont own.

link to thread?

being prole makes me the most qualified to weigh in on prole/not prole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720801)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:32 AM
Author: Floppy candlestick maker jew

No. We talked about this. You can only see a little prole. You cannot see what non proles see as prole. You are the least qualified here.

Editing your posts is paf btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720819)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:38 AM
Author: spruce principal's office

i edited that in in like .2 secs you catty fag. it wasnt some pathetic stealth edit that alters the meaning of the poast overall.

i disagee because im an ascended prole and float in prestigious circles now. its like how a foreigner is most qualified to describe the differences between their native and adoptive home.

and how would it be different if i was a bluebood prestigemo?! that person would be just as unqualified to opine on whats prole. are you an adoptive prole? downwardly mlbile blueblood living in the trailer park now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720838)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration

There is no such thing as an ascended prole. You cannot exist in both spheres at once. Refusing to accept you are No Longer Prole is itself Prole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720844)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:44 AM
Author: spruce principal's office

im not. that would be like saying a foreigner is identical to a native.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720850)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:48 AM
Author: Floppy candlestick maker jew

Y9u're not Tocqueville. You are a prole with slightly more money than you had 2 years ago. It's why you defend cslg on here. Biggest room on Caribbean cruise equals elite af.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720861)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:52 AM
Author: spruce principal's office

when the fuck did i say anything like that?

what have i claimed is prestigious that you disagree with?

you're just being a catty feuding fag because thats the raison d'etre of fags (i learned raison d'etre in ascended prole finishing school)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720877)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:59 AM
Author: Milky hell volcanic crater

great sub thread, 180s to everyone involved, I really like it here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720889)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 12:42 PM
Author: Floppy candlestick maker jew

its like how a foreigner is most qualified to describe the differences between their native and adoptive home.

Unless you edit again tbf



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721028)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 1:03 PM
Author: spruce principal's office

now that i know you're obsessively refreshing threads ill be careful not to add things even .2 seconds after i hit poast. mea culpa.

btw this is extremely prole. the prestigious thing to do would be to at least feign nonchalance rather than exposing that you're manically dialed in.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721100)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: Floppy candlestick maker jew

Go back to rEDdIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720846)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:46 AM
Author: spruce principal's office

dont be mad i pwned you with irrefutable logic. this is why km ascendant and why you're brutally regressing to the mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720853)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:22 AM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

wow, gunnerattt ahead of the curve as usual

is there anything this guy can't do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720792)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:13 AM
Author: Doobsian bisexual property knife

was addicted all last summer, it was a 180 summer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720744)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:16 AM
Author: Violet love of her life corner

https://ibb.co/Wp49g9c8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720760)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:22 AM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

adolf hitler would have drank 8+ seltzer waters a day and he would have had the same favorite flavors as me

fact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720789)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:36 AM
Author: Violet love of her life corner

Hitler Pampelmousse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720830)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:50 AM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720866)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:26 AM
Author: self-absorbed exciting range kitty

Favorite brand?

Thoughts on sparkling water?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720802)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:29 AM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

i drink my local store brand because it's literally 1/2 the price of name brands and 95% as good as them

lime is the best flavor by far imo

sparkling water is good and i get it sometimes at restaurants for fun if they have it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720808)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: hyperventilating sienna useless brakes keepsake machete

Yes. We go through cases from Costco.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720816)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:38 AM
Author: charismatic stage yarmulke

my wife is addicted to buying seltzer water then never drinking it because it tastes like shit and having it take up space in our fridge/pantry for months before i finally toss all of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720835)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:56 AM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

yeah women love this shit

all the 180 people in the world do (me, women, others)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720883)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:57 AM
Author: Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration

(Continental Socialist)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720885)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 11:57 AM
Author: hairraiser arrogant dilemma

I very very very very highly recommend you NOT drink seltzer from a can. You're basically mainlining bisephanols, PFAS, syrene, formaldehyde, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720887)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 12:03 PM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

really? i thought metal cans have *less* chemicals than plastic and composite containers do

you got scholarship on this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720906)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 12:11 PM
Author: hairraiser arrogant dilemma

JFC tard. Don't drink out of plastic or composite containers either.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720940)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 12:01 PM
Author: Milky hell volcanic crater

I find fizzy water much more refreshing than plain water and I always have some in the fridge (usually the absolute cheapest I can find, occasionally some San Pelegrino)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49720896)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Floppy candlestick maker jew

San Pelegrino is exactly what gunnerat would describe as how he ascended from prole. Adding to my repertoire ty. Also included "white wine with fish" and socks just a hue off of pants.

Ascended paf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721049)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 12:48 PM
Author: slippery unholy location feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721053)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: Floppy candlestick maker jew

Sorry I ruined your thread BTW. Gunnerat just makes me so darn mad with his idea that he ascended

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721062)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 12:53 PM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

no it's definitely gunnerattt's fault as usual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721076)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: Milky hell volcanic crater

wait a second, San Pelegrino is a good water with a pleasant amount of carbonation, am I being called prole for this opinion????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721091)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 4:25 PM
Author: Floppy candlestick maker jew

Enjoy your peroni and aperol spritz proleass fancy prole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721778)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: tan nursing home

It destroys your teeth I have heard. The acid or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721064)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: motley hissy fit

I actually asked a dentist about this and they said no. Was concerned because I drink like 4 or 5 cans of seltzer a day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721092)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 1:03 PM
Author: tan nursing home

He heard a cash register noise as you asked, he's got a customer for life now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721098)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 1:15 PM
Author: motley hissy fit

Fair point. I got fucking owned!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721153)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 1:11 PM
Author: blathering reading party jewess

Whoa. Incel is credited for once

Co2 becomes carbonic acid that dissolves teeth fastly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721125)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 12:56 PM
Author: Massive institution bbw

I drink spendrifts almost exclusively

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721082)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 1:09 PM
Author: Wonderful therapy station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721115)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 1:12 PM
Author: Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration

Bunch of fuckin fag communists on this board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721132)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 3:23 PM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

your brown

every White person drinks this stuff now. sorry, Champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721589)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 3:57 PM
Author: Mentally impaired flushed tanning salon internal respiration

(asks for a humble bottle of pellegrino at local buffet)

"What, are you people even White?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721681)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: crawly market

i prefer pellegrino these days

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721585)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 4:26 PM
Author: transparent infuriating famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721785)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 4:30 PM
Author: startled walnut roast beef

i like to mix my wine with la croix (but not while working of course)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721798)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 4:45 PM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

never tried this but i have thought about it before

is it actually good?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49721862)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 9:23 PM
Author: startled walnut roast beef

not really “good” in terms of flavor but it works if you can’t do beer or liquor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49722428)



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Date: March 6th, 2026 9:16 PM
Author: slippery unholy location feces

Fizzy water sure is crazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842286&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49722420)