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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: aromatic brass senate clown Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: apoplectic liquid oxygen affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49589879) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49604959) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: turquoise bawdyhouse Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Clear meetinghouse prole Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: turquoise bawdyhouse (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Clear meetinghouse prole They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: turquoise bawdyhouse read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Crusty love of her life piazza Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Heady pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Ultramarine candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Ebony wagecucks what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Cracking brunch milk cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: rebellious messiness resort I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Crusty love of her life piazza teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Magenta thriller rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Laughsome Rusted Nursing Home Fat Ankles i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: autistic striped hyena depressive Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Black Adventurous Hospital really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: ungodly property fortuitous meteor It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: glittery hell it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: ungodly property fortuitous meteor Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Black Adventurous Hospital actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |