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TSINAH u need to revisit the way ur approaching PC building
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Date: May 24th, 2023 2:52 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt Look at chipset features before you look at anything else. Your chipset is what future-proofs your PC more than anything else. If you plan to connect lots of doohickeys to your computer, you want thunderbolt/USB4 specs to be maxed tf out. You want maximum USB-C headers on the motherboard and your case should have enough USB-C ports to connect them all. Your USB-A ports should also be USB 3.1 Gen 2.
You also need to make sure none of your nvme lanes share bandwidth. You need minimum 2 slots running with all PCI 5.0/4.0 lanes available to both slots simultaneously. If you can get more slots, get them, but only if they do not steal bandwidth from other slots.
You don't need to overclock and you don't need SLI, so fuck both of those features. However you need all the latest security features. You have to be able to set a password to unlock hard drives. For some reason many new computers still lack this option in the bios. I bought a MSI with x570 chipset but I had to return it because it lacked that feature. |
Date: May 24th, 2023 3:52 PM Author: Copper Glittery Wagecucks I build PCs with running Linux in mind & try to futureproof them to the extent practicable. Mine has been going strong for 13 years, so clearly I am doing something right.
Components on motherboards die, however. Especially if you're frequently connecting things to them (USB, LAN, sound, etc.) Dust is also a bigger problem than many realize, and most case fans are garbage. Having the ability to control fan speeds enables you to create a positive pressure environment inside the case, which helps reduce dust.
But yeah, obviously there are tradeoffs whenever you build a PC. I build them to last while performing server workloads 24/7. |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 3:57 PM Author: laughsome university toaster What server workload? What "work"? Besides archiving posts to extort people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46350539) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 4:43 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt It hasn't been "going strong," your components have all died, including your onboard NIC. How do you blow out a NIC in America? In the turd world people use voltage stabilizers and I'm wondering if you could benefit from one. I would get a UPS that handles that shit, but this is also fine:
I would get new cables too, CAT6e of course. |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 5:33 PM Author: Copper Glittery Wagecucks That's after 13 years of heavy use. My hard drives have over 100,000 power-on hours. There are probably over 100,000,000 keypresses on my Kinesis Advantage. My Rival mouse's cumulative distance traveled would get me to the moon and back. Sure, the 10/100 LAN port stopped working. I updated it to a gigabit one instead. The reason I have a SATA card is because my motherboards on-board RAID is garbage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351032) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 5:56 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt The Intel H670 series chipset gives you twice as much bandwidth as the B660. It's probably going to be easier to find motherboards with the Z670 though. It looks like you could really use all that extra connectivity and there's no other way to get it. B660 looks like shovelware for Best Buy PCs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351130) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 6:04 PM Author: Amethyst Supple Electric Furnace "You have to be able to set a password to unlock hard drives."
Why? There is bitlocker or linux hdd encryption |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 6:14 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt You can get self encrypting. OPAL SSDs now, so you aren't using CPU overhead to do any of that shit. There is no real Linux support for OPAL though. There's something called sedutil but no one can make it work. That only way to take advantage of OPAL is to set a hard drive password in the BIOS. For me this is necessary because I run OpenSUSE, and BTRFS does not support file level encryption. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351189) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 6:16 PM Author: Copper Glittery Wagecucks I just use LUKS on my hard drive, which asks for the password at boot, before literally anything else happens (other than the bootloader selecting the system to boot into). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351204) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 6:19 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt Consumes CPU cycles and reduces file transfer speeds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351221) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 6:26 PM Author: Copper Glittery Wagecucks That was a fair tradeoff, because it's my laptop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351232) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 6:40 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt You can get laptops that do this.
https://i.imgur.com/zaZiy4J.jpg
You don't have to use ext4 either. You can use BTRFS and still be encrypted. Even FAT partitions are encrypted. You can't even format the drive without the password. |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 7:54 PM Author: Copper Glittery Wagecucks >You can't even format the drive without the password.
Unless the drive is soldered in place (on laptops, most are), you can definitely format the drive. |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 7:55 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt Heh, no. I've tried to break into these drives, believe me. The motherboard won't even make it visible to the OS without the password. You're not going to be able to mount it in any OS. Read up on forums where people "forgot" the password, or bought a recycled PC from a company that didn't remove the password. Drive is worthless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351594) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 8:10 PM Author: Copper Glittery Wagecucks What about https://github.com/Drive-Trust-Alliance/sedutil/wiki/PSID-Revert ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351693) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 8:28 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt Look at the actual instructions. You need a password. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351772) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 8:36 PM Author: Copper Glittery Wagecucks If you have physical access to the drive, you have the PSID. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351800) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 8:39 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt Only if there is one written on the drive. Crucial doesn't have one on the drive I have. Neither did ADATA. Neither does the OEM Micron SSD I have in front of me right now. That article says Samsung prints a PSID on the 850 series so I guess you can format those, but that's a very old drive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351811) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 10:09 PM Author: Copper Glittery Wagecucks From what I read during an admittedly brief review, it seems like some companies hide the PSID under stickers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46352114) |
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Date: May 25th, 2023 4:00 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt It was understood to be a security risk in 2018. Newer drives should have better security implementation. Also, as you can see, even back in the day it was possible to disable decryption of any kind using the PSID. This was user customizable.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/flaws-in-self-encrypting-ssds-let-attackers-bypass-disk-encryption/ |
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Date: May 25th, 2023 4:04 PM Author: irradiated bronze associate theater stage tsinah will under no circumstances admit that he could do anything better so why bother? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46355013) |
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Date: May 25th, 2023 7:51 PM Author: Copper Glittery Wagecucks Stay out of this sub-thread. The adults are talking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46355867) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 6:26 PM Author: Amethyst Supple Electric Furnace 5-10% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#46351237) |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 7:21 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt https://forum.manjaro.org/t/luks-makes-ssd-slow/89114
That dude has an 11th Gen Intel CPU and a very fast SSD and he's getting raped by LUKS. |
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Date: May 24th, 2023 7:55 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt This one looks good:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144564
I see at least one USB-C header in the pic so make sure your PC case has a USB-C port. Don't let that shit go to waste. The whole earf is moving to 40Gbps USB-C. 1 USB-C can also be split into 2x USB 3.1 running full speed, and can put out a lot of juice too.
Get better memory too. G-Skill is junk. Get actual Samsung DRAM, doesn't matter what brand is on the DIMM. G-Skill is no-name Taiwanese DRAM.
EDIT just realized this board doesn't do 40Gbps over USB. It's fucked up that this isn't standard on every z690 motherboard. |
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Date: May 25th, 2023 8:29 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt Damn, so almost no Intel motherboards come with thunderbolt 4 support. Most USB implementations are no better than what you get with AMD. There's no advantage to going with Intel unless you are getting an Aorus Extreme or something like that. May as well go with AMD if it's going to be like this.
You will probably get better driver support in Linux with AMD as well. That's just been my experience. Intel requires too many proprietary drivers. |
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Date: May 25th, 2023 9:36 PM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt Two TB4 ports on this bitch:
Look at that back panel - every USB-A port does 10Gbps. PCIe specs are sick too. I don't know how much you lose by using up the m.2 slots though. If you fill them all up it probably disables one of the PCIe slots, but all the Intel boards are like that too.
Unghh: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41b20SVg6fL._AC_.jpg
It will be many years before we see faster connectivity than this board offers. |
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Date: May 26th, 2023 9:58 AM Author: Bull headed people who are hurt For comparison, this $700 MSI has no TB4 ports. The fastest transfer speed it supports over USB-C is 20Gbps:
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X670E-Gaming-Motherboard-Wi-Fi/dp/B0B6Q4X5NF/?tag=httpwwwtechsp-20
This Asus is crippled in the same way. They don't even show pics of the back panel, probably because they don't want you to know:
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-X670E-F-Motherboard-heatsinks/dp/B0BDTK4SLH/?tag=httpwwwtechsp-20
That Asus ProArt is the best motherboard I've found TSINAH. Buy that board plus whatever AM5 CPU meets your needs. |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 9:59 PM Author: Gregory Bovino (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5345216&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310752#49616369) |