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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:12 PM Author: fantasy-prone state stock car She comes home and everything is done which means she wasn’t home when they weren’t done thus negating her ability to complain about them not being done. This makes her MAF. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555516) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:25 PM Author: multi-colored indian lodge Find this rly hard to believe tbh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555533) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:26 PM Author: chrome chest-beating pistol (unmarried man) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555538) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: multi-colored indian lodge Wrong on both counts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555549) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:59 PM Author: chrome chest-beating pistol My apologies! Let me correct myself:
(lying woman) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:01 PM Author: razzle claret background story french chef women ALWAYS lie about this and ALWAYS claim to be the exception
it's very strange and annoying |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:08 PM Author: chrome chest-beating pistol Women don't view their compulsive complaining and general dissatisfaction with everything as pathological, and with the social trend towards "woman always right", why should they. They're told every day that they should be miserable and the cause of their misery lies entirely outside of themselves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555654) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:08 PM Author: razzle claret background story french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555658) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 5:50 PM Author: Swollen burgundy hospital trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49151380) |
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Date: August 7th, 2025 12:05 PM Author: frisky coiffed striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49164514) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 6:37 PM Author: thriller sooty mental disorder bbw correction: liberal women. Liberalism is a mental disease and women have it times ten. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48556060) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: razzle claret background story french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555558) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 5:23 PM Author: fantasy-prone state stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555876) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 10:59 AM Author: maroon rebellious ratface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48560301) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 5:50 PM Author: Swollen burgundy hospital trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49151379) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: Spectacular seedy death wish old irish cottage (married woman) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555556) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:37 PM Author: irate bespoke crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555564) |
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Date: January 16th, 2025 10:51 AM Author: fantasy-prone state stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48557527) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:14 PM Author: fragrant mustard sex offender degenerate you don't have a wife and literally spend 20+ hours a day raging about donald trump on the internet you mentally retarded jewish pedophile. you are jewishly lying yet again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555664) |
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Date: August 7th, 2025 12:06 PM Author: frisky coiffed striped hyena wait...wait....
I thought *I* was the retarded jewish pedophile? |
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Date: August 7th, 2025 12:10 PM Author: fantasy-prone state stock car anyone who doesn’t worship god emperor Trump, actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49164524) |
Date: January 15th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: razzle claret background story french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555559) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:41 PM Author: Swashbuckling Love Of Her Life Now imagine how mad she'd be if you didn't do them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555582) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 11:03 AM Author: laughsome yellow step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48581104) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:01 PM Author: Beady-eyed elastic band you should teach her to get chores done as she goes, like putting garbage in the trash can or rinsing dishes off before putting them in the dishwasher. shed probably go ballistic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555645) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:14 PM Author: excitant trailer park 180. Its 18000 seeing them short circuit in real time trying to chase the high of complaining > realizing they're fresh out of smack. I hate women so much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555665) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 5:49 PM Author: fantasy-prone state stock car This guy gets it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49151378) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:14 PM Author: Galvanic Mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555667) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:16 PM Author: brilliant roast beef I also WFH and get chores done while my wife is at her office job. She absolutely hates coming home to see the snow cleared, grocery shopping done and dinner prepared with dishes already put away. She gets even more furious when the laundry is done. I understand that level of productivity is hard for her to process because she needs to watch me do chores and berate me while I do them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555671) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:17 PM Author: Beady-eyed elastic band lmao its too cynical to believe but i want it to be true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555678) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:17 PM Author: excitant trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555679) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:18 PM Author: razzle claret background story french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555683) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:22 PM Author: Supple Canary Box Office It truly upsets the natural order of things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555694) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:47 PM Author: chrome chest-beating pistol Women don't want help with chores. They don't even want the chores to be done exactly the way they want them done. What they want is to micromanage their husbands and spread misery.
Doing the chores perfectly while she's away is so aggravating to women because if exposes the lie that it was ever about the chores at all. |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 4:49 PM Author: razzle claret background story french chef i encourage you to do a long substack post on this topic. you are an expert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555785) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: razzle claret background story french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555832) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 5:44 PM Author: excitant trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555933) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 5:45 PM Author: Beady-eyed elastic band if youre married these days women expect you to be hiring housecleaners and landscapers and ubereats drivers 24/7 for this reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555935) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 5:49 PM Author: brilliant roast beef The food never tastes as good or is as healthy as if you cook for yourself at home. Cleaning and other work around the house is the same. I only hire out work too complex or time consuming to do it myself like a large plumbing project. I’d also never get up on my roof for any reason so I have contractors handle that. I’m happy to do most things and my wife still resents me and berates me for how it’s done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48555945) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 5:51 PM Author: Swollen burgundy hospital trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49151381) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 8:44 PM Author: Mind-boggling market mother My wife gets MAF because whenever she wants to "clean together" and I'm like - nope. Email me what you want cleaned and I will just clean it all myself.
They really just want to direct you around like you're there intern. |
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Date: August 7th, 2025 12:08 PM Author: house-broken circlehead “Email me, brotha” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49164520) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 8:51 PM Author: white coffee pot how do you guys live like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48556340) |
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Date: January 16th, 2025 11:36 AM Author: Vivacious ebony hell Wait until the new update installs and she finds new things to be mad about anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48557618) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 4:36 AM Author: Tantric fluffy site boltzmann She's mad that you're doing chores at home because it's a sign that you're not making as much money as you theoretically could be making if you have time to do that shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48559725) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 6:56 AM Author: Useless racy den puppy Top thread. Op should monikerize (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48559808) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 7:53 AM Author: fantasy-prone state stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48559832) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 9:43 AM Author: fragrant mustard sex offender degenerate op is a retarded jewish pedophile and there is a near 0% chance he actually has a wife. he just makes these threads out of some sense of obligation to promote jewish agitprop and degeneracy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48560039) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 10:43 AM Author: Twinkling kitty cat wrinkle When the wife was not working, her story was that it is hard to get all the daily chores done.
When I switched to WFH and she started going in to do an essentially email job, I started doing most of the daily chores. As soon as she leaves for work, I write up a list of chores, put on a podcast, set my phone timer for 45 minutes, and rip through as many chores as fast as possible. If needed I do that again for 30 minutes late in the afternoon.
Her mother came to visit and complimented my wife by saying that our house is now so much cleaner and organized. Her mother didn't realize that I was the one doing nearly all the chores. The wife spent a month fuming, pouting, and saying "I'm not angry" before letting the whole thing explode. |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 11:00 AM Author: Disgusting Charcoal Nibblets DESCRIBE said explosion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48560304) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 11:30 AM Author: Twinkling kitty cat wrinkle "My mother basically said I was a bad housekeeper and I know you are thinking the same thing even if you don't say it! Which also means that I am a bad mother, in my mother's eyes!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48560402) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 11:41 AM Author: Twinkling kitty cat wrinkle She's a great mother to our three boys and in particular is a great boys mother. She knows when to let them be rowdy and she can get them to focus when they need to. But her organizational and housekeeping skills are abysmal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48560427) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 11:42 AM Author: vengeful provocative electric furnace filthpig So she can do part of the job but not the other parts. What do you think her mother would think of that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48560430) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 11:45 AM Author: Twinkling kitty cat wrinkle Her mother is basically the opposite which is a large part of the problem. Her mother was a pro level housekeeper and all around organized thing-doer but could not nurture let alone tolerate the true personalities of her children. So her mother and my wife are still running a low-grade resentment contest between them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48560436) |
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Date: January 20th, 2025 6:08 AM Author: Disgusting Charcoal Nibblets There is no win here. Ultimately it's her issues with her mother. Just remember that your wife has the emotional maturity of a 12 year old and you will profit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48567872) |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 10:48 AM Author: razzle claret background story french chef i asked chatgpt for book recommendations on this specific topic. everything it offered was total garbage
any of you bozos have more longer form Scholarship to suggest? |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 10:58 AM Author: Insecure odious organic girlfriend My wife is a disgusting slob and any caring whatsoever about “chores” getting done at all (let alone “correctly”) falls to me. I’ve mostly stopped caring at this point.
Not sure whether this is better or worse than a wife/situation like the one described in the OP |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 11:36 AM Author: Balding Theater Women are 180
The house is spotless when I WFH. When my wife does there are plates left in the sink, empty soda cans on her desk, unmade bed, etc.
It sucks |
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Date: January 17th, 2025 11:58 AM Author: razzle claret background story french chef Nagging: Domestic Abuse: Exploring the Psychology of Nagging and Relational Aggression (Redpilled Progressive)
Inside, you'll find: An in-depth look at Chris Rock's observation on women's dislike of men resting. A detailed analysis of nagging as a form of relational aggression. A dissection of the 'mean girls' phenomenon in the context of nagging women. An exploration of how women use state police, social services, and other institutions against men. A discussion on animus possession and how women project their negativity onto men. A critique of female supremacy and how it fits into nagging behavior. An examination of how children are used as tools to extort money. A thorough look at the influence of feminism and gender ideology on nagging behavior.
https://www.amazon.com/Nagging-Psychology-Relational-Aggression-Progressive-ebook/dp/B0DGW4F2X2
looks interesting |
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Date: January 20th, 2025 6:09 AM Author: Disgusting Charcoal Nibblets "A detailed analysis of nagging as a form of relational aggression." /thread |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 9:38 AM Author: Useless racy den puppy I don't think women, especially SAHMs, are ever going to recover from this. Each individual task takes somewhere between 30 seconds and 4 minutes. unloading the dishwasher: 3 min tops folding laundry: 4 min cleaning a toilet bowl: 30 seconds
there are some more major time consuming tasks like vacuuming the house but no one expects this done daily.
lol at all of those houses with heaping piles of clean laundry that you are supposed to rummage through and some magnet indicators on the dishwasher that its clean or dirty jfc |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 9:41 AM Author: Beady-eyed elastic band unloading a dishwasher is a pain imo. but otherwise cr. also i havent folded laundry in years. i either hang it up or if its a tshirt or jeans or whatever i just put the clean clothes in a small pile. if its sheets and bedding stuff you just do the bed, which admittedly is also a pita. towels i guess you fold if theres a ton of them but otherwise put on the rack. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48580913) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 11:05 AM Author: laughsome yellow step-uncle's house Even breaking out a pumice stone to get some hard water stains out of the toilet barely takes much time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48581108) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 5:49 PM Author: fantasy-prone state stock car Today she came home from shopping and got MAF to find me laying on the couch watching 2024 college football highlights. She was like “Aren’t you going to mow the lawn?” “Already done,” I told her. “What about installing [our son]’s ceiling fan?” “I did that too,” I replied. “Great. Can you fix the dishwasher?” “I already did.” Her face turned bright red with rage. Now she’s not speaking to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49151377) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 5:54 PM Author: 180 flatulent yarmulke police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49151382) |
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Date: August 7th, 2025 11:56 AM Author: fantasy-prone state stock car she’s still not talking to me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49164492) |
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Date: December 15th, 2025 1:38 PM Author: Concupiscible Casino Idea He Suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49511370) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:53 PM Author: Useless racy den puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49219581) |
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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:51 PM Author: excitant trailer park think about this thread now & again, hate women (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49511242) |
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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:58 PM Author: french whorehouse haunted graveyard She's currently rage texting her sisters/friends who are all telling her what an abusive narcissistic asshole you are for doing this, and also telling her that the way you did everything wrong, and how they can't believe that you would so smugly do it while she was out and act like that's OK. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49511268) |
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Date: December 15th, 2025 1:03 PM Author: fantasy-prone state stock car The thing is she can’t come out and say it because she knows she’ll sound like a bitch. but I know. and she knows I know. and that’s enough for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49511281) |
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Date: December 15th, 2025 1:11 PM Author: excitant trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664246&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49511302) |