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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Outnumbered Fear-inspiring Headpube Station Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: Onyx Puppy Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49567730) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: awkward market candlestick maker Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: big jet-lagged roommate multi-billionaire Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: awkward market candlestick maker (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: big jet-lagged roommate multi-billionaire They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: awkward market candlestick maker read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Fighting antidepressant drug gunner Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Supple Cerise Party Of The First Part Rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Blue cerebral nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Chartreuse Cocky Home what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: histrionic patrolman cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: avocado striped hyena I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Fighting antidepressant drug gunner teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Cracking bawdyhouse reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Angry bisexual stag film i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: topaz indian lodge boiling water Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: emerald offensive persian really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Appetizing Mental Disorder Point It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Sienna razzle-dazzle sanctuary it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Appetizing Mental Disorder Point Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764",#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: emerald offensive persian actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |