The trend is more prevalent among the middle and upper classes, particularly in urban centers like Tokyo, London, New York, and Seoul, where adults seek to enjoy stress-free environments without disruption. This shift has raised concerns about the growing divide between families with children and adults who prioritize personal comfort and convenience.

As this trend continues, it's possible we will see a further segregation of public spaces, with more child-free zones and specialized family-friendly areas designed to accommodate children. This could impact how public life and family dynamics evolve in the future.

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Because middle and upper classes don't have kids in those cities. When they're ready to have kids they leave.

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I think a lot of it is that the “mother” can’t complain that it’s so hard to take care of 1 kid and “it takes a village!” when my wife sits there with 5.

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Every park I take kids to, there are unleashed dogs there. Outdoor spaces have now been taken over by dog daddies and mommies. And increasingly they are encroaching indoors too with the ESA bullshit.

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last week a woman had two worthless little dogs at the grocery store, and one pissed all over an endcap display. why we tolerate this, i have no idea.

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/%22A_mother%21_How_odd%21%22_-_Gordon_Ross._LCCN2011648850.jpg/800px-%22A_mother%21_How_odd%21%22_-_Gordon_Ross._LCCN2011648850.jpg?20180331131355

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As you get older you realize that you don’t really like the aggravation of your job, it’s not thrilling, and going to do stuff and take fancy trips isn’t really worth it.

Kids connect you to your youth though. You’ll take a trip you otherwise wouldn’t. When you get older, having grandchildren and children to have shared memories and events with is especially nice.

The most miserable people in the old folks home are those that have no family and chose to always be single and never have kids.

The whole thing is pointless because you die and can’t take it with you. The only way to matter at all is to have kids. You cannot have a full life without them.

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This is why a single female German cockroach can produce around 200 to 400 offspring in her 6-month lifespan. If we assume her 200 female descendants also reproduce at the same rate within that period, and considering the reproductive cycle, each of those descendants could also produce 200 to 400 roaches within the same timeframe.

In just two generations, this could lead to approximately 40,000 to 160,000 descendants. The rapid reproduction cycle and compounding effect contribute to this explosive growth.

Likewise, humans, who believe that the only source of joy in life is reproduction, may find themselves focused on creating offspring as a primary goal. Interestingly, studies have shown that the more intelligent a person is, the fewer offspring they tend to have.

Research suggests that individuals with higher levels of education and intelligence often delay childbearing or opt for fewer or no children due to various factors such as career ambitions, lifestyle choices, and access to contraception. This phenomenon, sometimes referred to as the "fertility-intelligence inverse relationship," has been observed in multiple studies across developed nations.

This trend suggests that intelligent individuals may prioritize personal development, creative pursuits, or societal contributions over reproduction, viewing fulfillment through a broader lens than just having offspring.

Meanwhile, individuals from lower socioeconomic backgrounds tend to have higher fertility rates due to various factors such as limited access to education, fewer family planning resources, and different cultural or economic incentives.

In these contexts, larger families can serve as a form of economic security or social support, with less emphasis placed on delaying childbearing for career or educational opportunities.

Additionally, there can be less emphasis on delaying childbearing for career or personal development compared to more educated populations, contributing to higher birth rates.

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That sounds like a sad and pathetic life. What many parents fail to realize is that raising kids is a job that lasts 18 to 25 years.

Once that’s done, those kids will repeat the cycle, and you’ll be back to being on your own with nothing to do but either learn to enjoy yourself or fall into a routine of (drinking as you said) and doing nothing. Seems like you've already chosen the latter.

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I traveled all over the place, I worked hard, I built stuff, I lived a lot.

I can say, unequivocally, that having, and spending time with, my children has been the crest of my life's wave regardless of whatever potential positive things may come or not come my way.

But I don't understand the incessant debate on this topic. There are a lot of factors that make me feel this way. We are fortunate. We have help. It isn't the case for everyone.

I don't get the handwringing over this stuff. People have more choices in their lives, generally, now. It shouldn't surprise anyone that some are choosing not to do what their parents did or others do. I don't see that as anything but a societal positive.

I do think the phones have more to do with it than people let on. Our brains are wired differently because of these things now, maybe they wire us to be less into things other than our own dopamine hits, relations with others bedamned. I think that's a bigger piece of this than we give it credit for.

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Their customer base is comprised of the people falling from the middle into the white trash hellscape and the people who are just going to throw their hands up and not bother having kids.

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I took the kids to NYC and the Natural History Museum and their ticket system was down so we had to stand in line. They go slow as shit, so after 5 minutes of what looks like 30+ minutes of standing in line with my 5 and 7 year old, i take out my phone so they don't resort to punching each other. They start watching a cartoon peacefully on the floor, and some museum security guard RUNS OVER shouting at me that the kids can't sit on the ground. A similar thing happened at another NYC tourist attraction that should seemingly be FOR KIDS, but instead is tailored for 30 year old hipsters who still want to watch the Muppets.

Similarly we were on a fucking MINI TRAIN TOUR of some tourist city, and everyone else was like a 50 year old single person staring down my toddlers - because god forbid someone bring a child on a MINIATURE TRAIN.

I don't get how people raise kids in these cities. It just seems like everyone is contantly giving you the evil eye.

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