If Trump wins and doesn't do mass-deportations it was all for nothing
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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:44 PM Author: Jed Dews
if you want to know what trump will do, all you need to ask is this:
is it good for jews?
if it is good for jews, trump will do it. if it is not, he will not.
is deporting illegal immigrants good for jews, mase?
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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:49 PM Author: 718-662-5970
Vance went on the record very clearly and I trust what he said was best case scenario:
1. Expedited process for deportation of those with felony convictions (maybe even the smaller group of violent felony convictions). This probably just involves ordering immigration courts to work "double time" in signing these orders and ordering ICE to 1) retrieve these people from criminal jails and/or 2) execute warrants on those at liberty whose whereabout are known. Those on the loose will remain so, until or unless they are arrested for some new crime. NONE of this is a new law or new protocol. Its just promising to enforce what the law already is.
2. Initiate some employer-verification program to make employment hard and incentivize illegals to self-deport. This obviously requires a congressional bill signed into law, and like the wall Dems in Congress have no reason to give Trump a win. GOP will need the requisite numbers to pass it despite Dems voting no, and the requisite will to support it. Both of those failed for the border wall.
After that, Vance shut up.
There does not seem to be any plan to detain and deport non-felons.
Trump, ofc, promises different but always without any details of a plan. I think the above is best case scenario.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764#48163184)
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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:55 PM Author: 718-662-5970
The violent felons? I have no numbers at hand, but I bet 33%+ of them are sitting in jails and prisons. They need to be transferred to immigration detention centers, out of criminal jails. ICE currently has the power to do this, but their centers are often full, their officers are often lazy, and criminal judges and local corrections dont like to let people go...
Past that 33%, you will have some small group, say ~5%, where ICE knows exactly where they live. Get a warrant, arrest, process and deport. Not too expensive, but will need to get ICE agents into vans and out on the street.
Those lost in the wind? Nothing will happen.
But for those we send back, there is no country that can say "we wont take them back" if they are citizens of that country.
As for some dreamed-of mass deportation of non-felons... yeah that would be an operation akin to landing on the moon, in terms of money and gridlock. And thats why even Vance isnt mentioning it
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764#48163207) |
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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:03 PM Author: 718-662-5970
cr.
there is no amount of red tape in getting a job or a paycheck that would ever make some Haitian in Ohio say, "you know what? better I take my 6 kids back to Port au Prince, back to the metal shed built over the muddy creek filled with plastic two litres, where we cook rat meat over the fire of burning rubber tires, and fend off one-legged beggers with AIDS all day".
lol.
THEY WILL NEVER SELF-DEPORT EVER*
*unless the culture in the US changes so radically that roving bands of young american men hunt them and beat them and rape them and lynch them. Then -- MAYBE -- they decide Haiti is the best way to stay alive.
iow, short of public support for race war, these demographics will only trend upwards infinitely
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764#48163233) |
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