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Legal question re ICE shooting. Will the ICE hero be criminally tried?
| Citrine Well-lubricated Stead | 01/07/26 |
| Narrow-minded toaster hissy fit | 01/07/26 |
| Walnut boyish forum deer antler | 01/07/26 |
| Citrine Well-lubricated Stead | 01/07/26 |
| purple infuriating dilemma | 01/07/26 |
| purple infuriating dilemma | 01/07/26 |
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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:36 PM Author: Citrine Well-lubricated Stead Let's assume the feds won't charge him while Trump is POTUS.
If Minnesota charges him, do federal officers have some kind of immunity from being charged with state charges? |
Date: January 7th, 2026 8:38 PM Author: Narrow-minded toaster hissy fit 28 USC 1442 should allow him to remove state criminal charges to fed court. i'm not sure what immunity doctrines might apply (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5818745&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764#49570811) |
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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:43 PM Author: Walnut boyish forum deer antler To successfully claim immunity and avoid a state trial, the agent must prove two things (based on the In re Neagle test): • Authorization: Was the agent performing an act they were authorized to do under federal law? (DHS claims they were conducting a lawful immigration operation). • Necessity & Propriety: Was the action "no more than what was necessary and proper" to perform those duties? This is the central point of dispute today.
The case is unique because of the sharp divide in evidence and narrative presented by officials today: • Federal Defense: DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and federal officials have characterized the shooting as self-defense and "domestic terrorism," claiming Renee Good used her vehicle as a weapon to try to run over officers. • State/Local Counter-Evidence: Governor Tim Walz and Mayor Jacob Frey have publicly denounced the federal narrative as "propaganda" and "bullsh*t." They cite bystander videos that reportedly show the agent firing into the vehicle as it was driving away, which would undermine the legal claim that the shooting was "necessary and proper." |
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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:51 PM Author: Citrine Well-lubricated Stead I assume this immunity is immediately appealable via interlocutory appeal so that is good for the ICE guy. He needs to move to a non extradition country though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5818745&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764#49570850) |
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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: purple infuriating dilemma He's fucked. ICE trains its agents not to stand in front of cars, so he isn't protected by federal law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5818745&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764#49570860) |
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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:54 PM Author: purple infuriating dilemma I thought he'd stay out of jail under sovereign immunity but that's not gonna happen, according to Lexis AI. His trial will be moved to Federal court but he'll be tried under state law and convicted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5818745&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310764#49570856) |