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Cons what the fuck is "absolute immunity?" Is that a legal concept?
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM Author: avocado talking garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573120) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM Author: saffron azn field yes it is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573122) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM Author: avocado talking garrison Why does it exist? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573211) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:44 PM Author: saffron azn field because White people (your Betters) decided that it should (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573240) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM Author: avocado talking garrison Why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573418) |
Date: January 8th, 2026 4:19 PM Author: Primrose range friendly grandma yes, it is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573125) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM Author: avocado talking garrison Why does it exist? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573148) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:33 PM Author: Primrose range friendly grandma who cares (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573205) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:34 PM Author: avocado talking garrison Anyone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573210) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:20 PM Author: bateful coldplay fan (Stephen Miller’s intern) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573130) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:21 PM Author: Startled Apoplectic Public Bath Never heard of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573138) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM Author: exhilarant old irish cottage clown It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain circumstances) prosecutors and legislators. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573213) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:15 PM Author: avocado talking garrison So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can arrest them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573368) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:26 PM Author: 180 crawly parlour milk it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573411) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM Author: avocado talking garrison Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy absolute immunity? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573417) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:27 PM Author: 180 crawly parlour milk i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killing.
in general, though, the question of whether something is in the scope does not turn on whether policy was violated. |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:36 PM Author: avocado talking garrison DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the scope of their duties? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573813) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM Author: 180 crawly parlour milk that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity. there is no need to decide whether a judge or legislator who is following policy should get immunity.
the entire issue arises when a judge or legislator is doing their job and massively errs. |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:27 PM Author: avocado talking garrison Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employment is amazing! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573971) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:33 PM Author: 180 crawly parlour milk i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue.
absolute immunity becomes an issue when someone arguably fucks up. it doesn't become an issue when someone follows policy.
so if a judge makes a massively erroneous ruling but wasn't bribed, etc., then it was within the scope of the job but was outside policy -- and the judge gets absolute immunity. |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:34 PM Author: avocado talking garrison So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if you work for the government (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49573991) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:21 PM Author: 180 crawly parlour milk absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it.
qualified immunity is more common, but even there it is broadly applied. cons have wanted to trim back or even decimate QI but libs have opposed that. |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:38 PM Author: avocado talking garrison I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agency policy that says "don't shoot moving vehicles," but an agency official shoots into a moving a vehicle, can the agency official still claim he was acting within the scope of his duties? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49574741) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:05 AM Author: 180 crawly parlour milk that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up situations. but if you're doing more or less the official function, even if you get it wrong, it's within the scope. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49574789) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:15 AM Author: avocado talking garrison If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this guy had extensive training and indemnifying him is a bad look for any employer. I guess I'll leave it there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49574803) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:37 PM Author: Jared Baumeister Shoulda listened to NSAM!
https://x.com/i/status/2014494790247924089 |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:43 PM Author: Jared Baumeister Vance on Jan. 8: "You have a official engaging in federal law enforcement action. That's a federal issue. That guy's protected by absolute immunity."
Vance today: "I didn't say that officers who engaged in wrongdoing would enjoy immunity. That's absurd."
https://x.com/i/status/2014472605198090693 |