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Will you watch my CA9 argument next week? "Swinging dicks" judge on panel (epah)

Next Tuesday at 9:00 PDT One of my judges is this fellow: h...
Dull Hell
  06/01/26
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Heady French Step-uncle's House
  06/01/26
what's it about, your fee award on trendsettah or some robin...
Heady French Step-uncle's House
  06/02/26
Whether the UK company that owns OnlyFans is subject to pers...
Dull Hell
  06/05/26
Lol jfc. Are there still open questions like *that* on inte...
Electric onyx famous landscape painting
  06/05/26
It's not *actually an open question, it's just a kindly elde...
Dull Hell
  06/05/26
Are you going after the "creators" individually?
vermilion crawly area trump supporter
  06/09/26
The Creators did nothing wrong.
Dull Hell
  06/09/26
Might be the one time in history that class members would pr...
Electric onyx famous landscape painting
  06/09/26
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Heady French Step-uncle's House
  06/05/26
This is tomorrow guys FYI
Dull Hell
  06/08/26
I will jump on as soon as my property tax protest hearing is...
cyan corn cake gay wizard
  06/08/26
Thanks man. First argument, and only 10 mins/side, so we'll...
Dull Hell
  06/08/26
Orrick v EPAH Get your bets in now
diverse orchid new version
  06/08/26
epah by a mile
Dull Hell
  06/08/26
you've been litigating this since 2022? i didn't even reali...
Heady French Step-uncle's House
  06/08/26
Lol, yeah. Our SOL goes back to summer 2018. By the time o...
Dull Hell
  06/08/26
...
Heady French Step-uncle's House
  06/08/26
Tremendous lawyering. I have not thought about such personal...
cyan corn cake gay wizard
  06/09/26
Lol thanks man. I’m now a little embarrassed to have e...
Dull Hell
  06/09/26
You did good. You had the better argument. How long are you ...
cyan corn cake gay wizard
  06/09/26
It’s beautiful and 66 here rn but I’m headed bac...
Dull Hell
  06/09/26
great report, sorry i missed it
Heady French Step-uncle's House
  06/09/26
What are damages like in Onlyfans-recurring-charges litigati...
vermilion crawly area trump supporter
  06/09/26
On its face it's just restitution of the "unlawful"...
Dull Hell
  06/09/26
...
Heady French Step-uncle's House
  06/09/26
This isn't the most sympathetic class of plaintiffs though. ...
vermilion crawly area trump supporter
  06/09/26
fraud is fraud
Heady French Step-uncle's House
  06/09/26
The money has to go somewhere. It’d be weird for a per...
Dull Hell
  06/09/26
Just rewatched this. And realized that the case will likely...
Dull Hell
  06/28/26
That Tall Man is Cr and 180
emerald hominid lodge
  06/28/26
honestly i believe your scholarship carried the day here bef...
Heady French Step-uncle's House
  06/30/26
Big surprise; we won. Height-of-lawyer theory remains u...
Dull Hell
  06/30/26
...
emerald hominid lodge
  06/30/26
congrats. what happens next in the case, is there a pile of ...
Heady French Step-uncle's House
  06/30/26
This is just to establish that OF is subject to jurisdiction...
Dull Hell
  07/01/26
...
Heady French Step-uncle's House
  07/01/26
EPAH represents the Simps Hagens Berman represents the Cr...
N904PD
  08/13/26


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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: Dull Hell

Next Tuesday at 9:00 PDT

One of my judges is this fellow: https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845118&mc=6&forum_id=2#top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49910818)



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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49910820)



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Date: June 2nd, 2026 6:52 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House

what's it about, your fee award on trendsettah or some robinson patman act stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49911719)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: Dull Hell

Whether the UK company that owns OnlyFans is subject to personal jurisdiction in CA.

(We've sued them under CA's Automatic Renewal Law for automatically renewing "Fans'" subscriptions to "Creators" without disclosing that it'll be a recurring charge. Our kindly elderly judge determined that they're not subject to Jx in CA because they hadn't "specifically targeted" California consumers)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49917025)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 4:24 PM
Author: Electric onyx famous landscape painting

Lol jfc. Are there still open questions like *that* on internet minimum contacts? Just set up your site to not allow California IP addresses, like how when I take depos in red states now I have to use my imagination to jerk off because porn sites want my DL and birth certificate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49917027)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 4:30 PM
Author: Dull Hell

It's not *actually an open question, it's just a kindly elderly judge who assumed that Orrick biglolyers probably know a lot about jurisdiction, so we should do what they say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49917032)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 1:58 PM
Author: vermilion crawly area trump supporter

Are you going after the "creators" individually?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49925493)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 3:23 PM
Author: Dull Hell

The Creators did nothing wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49925689)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 8:24 PM
Author: Electric onyx famous landscape painting

Might be the one time in history that class members would prefer an in-kind suck-n-fuck coupon settlement over whatever nominal $$ they'd otherwise get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49926483)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49917746)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 3:11 PM
Author: Dull Hell

This is tomorrow guys FYI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49923044)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: cyan corn cake gay wizard

I will jump on as soon as my property tax protest hearing is over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49923058)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: Dull Hell

Thanks man. First argument, and only 10 mins/side, so we'll be pau by 9:30 at the latest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49923061)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: diverse orchid new version

Orrick v EPAH

Get your bets in now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49923048)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: Dull Hell

epah by a mile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49923052)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House

you've been litigating this since 2022? i didn't even realize onlyfans has been around that long - i guess it pays to be an early adopter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49924087)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: Dull Hell

Lol, yeah. Our SOL goes back to summer 2018. By the time of judgment it's going to be 10 years of all auto-renewals in CA. It'll be well over $1B by then. Unfortunately our only claim is under the UCL so it'll be a judge deciding, and obv he'll think of some way to pare it down, like perhaps to only the first renewal, and then say, "the user should have reviewed his cc statement and known better."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49924117)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49924129)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 12:27 PM
Author: cyan corn cake gay wizard

Tremendous lawyering. I have not thought about such personal jurisdiction issues in years and the deep analysis was both majestic and scholarly. I also thought that your short rebuttal that put the focus back on the subsequent conduct of the Defendant was superb. Laser focused. You came back into the ring like Mike Tyson and dropped the mic on that nerd lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49925237)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 12:43 PM
Author: Dull Hell

Lol thanks man. I’m now a little embarrassed to have even posted it, it was so uneventful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49925288)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 12:45 PM
Author: cyan corn cake gay wizard

You did good. You had the better argument. How long are you staying in SF for? I wish I was in SF today. It's hot as fuck here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49925300)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 1:46 PM
Author: Dull Hell

It’s beautiful and 66 here rn but I’m headed back to the airport (after coming in at 6:00 on a redeye). Can’t stand to be away from HI even for a minute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49925471)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 7:52 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House

great report, sorry i missed it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49926434)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 1:59 PM
Author: vermilion crawly area trump supporter

What are damages like in Onlyfans-recurring-charges litigation? Do plaintiffs have a duty to mitigate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49925494)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: Dull Hell

On its face it's just restitution of the "unlawful" charges. We have Judge Breyer who is supposed to be unafraid of nuclear judgments, so we'll see what unfolds (there's surprisingly little caselaw as to whether at some point the consumer is required to review their charges and unsubscribe -- perhaps especially once they've first realized how it works)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49925699)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 7:56 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49926437)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 8:00 PM
Author: vermilion crawly area trump supporter

This isn't the most sympathetic class of plaintiffs though. What other remedies are available?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49926443)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House

fraud is fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49926552)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 9:08 PM
Author: Dull Hell

The money has to go somewhere. It’d be weird for a person taking that moral view to conclude that it’s better for the pornographer to keep it than to give it back to the lonely masturbators and shut-ins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49926576)



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Date: June 28th, 2026 12:08 AM
Author: Dull Hell

Just rewatched this. And realized that the case will likely be decided by the height transition from 18:16 to 18:30: https://youtu.be/V3P2ZxZwI9E?t=1096

Esp at 19:11, when the video guy is like, "whoa, this is a Tall Man," and has to adjust the camera.

Basically game over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49966677)



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Date: June 28th, 2026 12:13 AM
Author: emerald hominid lodge

That Tall Man is Cr and 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49966679)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 10:53 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House

honestly i believe your scholarship carried the day here before you even need to get to height, lol at that dude's argument that there's no onlyfans contact/aiming/directing to california

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49972710)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 2:40 PM
Author: Dull Hell

Big surprise; we won.

Height-of-lawyer theory remains undefeated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49971482)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 10:38 PM
Author: emerald hominid lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49972680)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:03 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House

congrats. what happens next in the case, is there a pile of money as damages yet or is that the next step

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49972728)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 2:33 PM
Author: Dull Hell

This is just to establish that OF is subject to jurisdiction in CA. They've since changed their subscription process to more-or-less comply with the law, but there should still be tens of million$ in illegal charge$ that we can have refunded to the victims (minus 25% + costs).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49973861)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 7:21 PM
Author: Heady French Step-uncle's House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#49974508)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 8:12 PM
Author: N904PD

EPAH represents the Simps

Hagens Berman represents the Creators. That’s the difference

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.1033777/gov.uscourts.cacd.1033777.1.0_1.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310796#50066512)