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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: up-to-no-good kitty kitchen Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: saffron school cafeteria just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: saffron school cafeteria (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: saffron school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49457596) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: mind-boggling cordovan rigor Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Exciting office Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: mind-boggling cordovan rigor (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Exciting office They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: mind-boggling cordovan rigor read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: diverse yellow headpube Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: irradiated clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: lake vibrant chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Milky yarmulke hospital what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Bateful Chest-beating Messiness cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: White property I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: diverse yellow headpube teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: onyx love of her life jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle market travel guidebook i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Amethyst Trailer Park Laser Beams Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Marvelous macaca church building really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: alcoholic center It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: mint dilemma son of senegal it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: alcoholic center Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Marvelous macaca church building actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Overrated magical scourge upon the earth 13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails
you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Overrated magical scourge upon the earth "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#49838410) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2026 9:35 PM Author: alcoholic center The feudal sentiment par excellence is the sentiment of the value and dignity of the individual man. The feudal man lived as a free man; he was master in his own house; he sought his end in himself; he was (and this is a scholastic expression) propter seipsum existens: all feudal obligations were founded upon respect for personality and the given word. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861",#50088178) |