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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Rough-skinned weed whacker Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: burgundy spot macaca just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: burgundy spot macaca (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: burgundy spot macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49589879) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49604959) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: bull headed maroon lodge idiot Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: stubborn indian lodge Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: bull headed maroon lodge idiot (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: stubborn indian lodge They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: bull headed maroon lodge idiot read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Boyish office queen of the night Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: carmine soul-stirring mediation factory reset button (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: concupiscible affirmative action what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: aqua field wagecucks cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: adventurous scarlet theater stage I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Boyish office queen of the night teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: aquamarine therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Exhilarant fantasy-prone yarmulke candlestick maker i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Passionate unhinged pozpig azn Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Obsidian Multi-colored Dingle Berry Private Investor really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: trip rigpig crackhouse It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: peach arrogant regret it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: trip rigpig crackhouse Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310861#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Obsidian Multi-colored Dingle Berry Private Investor actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |