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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:04 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs https://imgur.com/a/rHKoqZH I hope you guys have a great day. |
Date: December 5th, 2025 12:08 PM Author: slippery flatulent sanctuary I saw Diamond Head from the sky the other day and thought u. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486038) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:14 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs I was hoping you’d have a safe flight, bud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486050) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:16 PM Author: slippery flatulent sanctuary Thank you brother. Flight was good. Economy plus! Extra leg room for the Nougat Supreme.
Rainy right now. Really enjoying it so far. Beautiful state didn't realize it was this nice.
I'm gonna be stuck here for a while. Lotta shit to check out. I'm gonna approach some hot chicks today and tell them about AutoAdmit.com will report back with results. |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: kink-friendly jew legal warrant Don't you usually post your ass or dick in these threads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486053) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:18 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Need five (5) posters to ask for a cock at sunrise vid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486064) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:23 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy casino pistol I wanna see (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486078) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 6:16 PM Author: supple associate weed whacker Me too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487096) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 5:54 AM Author: brass idiot Cock@Sunrise Vid, tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49495891) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:20 PM Author: Sinister stage french chef I never understood the point of rinky-dink little backyard puddles, you can't swim in them you can only sit in them so you're sacrificing a lot of backyard for a puddle to sit in, why not get a really big hot tub? you can sit in that too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486069) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs It’s already hot here though, and having a pool you never swim in is a flex on no-poolmos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486076) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:27 PM Author: Sinister stage french chef having a tiny little pool that's too small to swim in is not a flex on anyone except on yourself, it's like owning a 3-series starter kit beamer and thinking it makes you fancy - it doesn't
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs <><><>no pool<><><> (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486098) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: slippery flatulent sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486101) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:40 PM Author: stimulating clown Sounds decadent AND shrewd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486697) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 6:17 PM Author: supple associate weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487097) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 6:35 PM Author: Aggressive School Cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487131) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 12:08 PM Author: shaky beta turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49499136) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 11:59 PM Author: filthy razzle-dazzle menage laser beams the 3 series starter kit beamer drives better than most other cars (especially in the past, but still) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487751) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 5:57 AM Author: brass idiot It's 180 for hanging out in the heat and fucking around at night. I rent a place like that in the Caribbean each year. Kids can splash around in a private pool without going to beach and I wife and I can fuck around in it after they go to bed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49495892) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:26 PM Author: dun corner i want to die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486091) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:26 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs https://imgur.com/a/lr93dX6 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486092) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: slippery flatulent sanctuary I'll drop some pics next week. I don't want some autist geolocating me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486103) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:07 PM Author: kink-friendly jew legal warrant post some more pics of you in 1994 brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486614) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:59 PM Author: Buff station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486742) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:45 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs This picture was taken when I was exactly 1/2 the age I am now (not 1994). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486857) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:53 PM Author: At-the-ready hospital 1995 was a great year. Braves won the world series. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486883) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 11:55 PM Author: dead shitlib pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487743) |
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Date: December 6th, 2025 10:36 AM Author: Mint swashbuckling hall Let's just say: just out of frame are a whole bunch of kids who are stoked as fuck about the movie Space Jam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49488266) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:05 PM Author: amber charismatic chapel persian how real is island time there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486603) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:41 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs I haven't really experienced that. People say it as a joke all the time, but doctors, mechanics, etc. are just as punctual here as on the mainland IME. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486849) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: Histrionic Meetinghouse Mother Thats because you live in a very insulated and wealthy neighborhood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486878) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:57 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Shut the fuck up earl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486899) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 6:37 PM Author: Maize arousing den half-breed (haole bitchasssss ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487136) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:07 PM Author: Startling piazza Absolutely amazing photograph. Thank you so much for sharing. You are a true bro. Also one of the coolest lawyers I know. And I know a lot of cool lawyers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486612) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:40 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs You're welcome, and thank you for the compliment of cool lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486845) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:27 PM Author: Talented Step-uncle's House Stain Why do you think Honolulu is better than miami beach? I am co sidering it if I go back to nightwork(6hr advantage) but I'd probably still buy a condo in Honolulu rather than risk termites with a sfh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486662) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:40 PM Author: stimulating clown Will you ever buy a condo, or will you just talk about doing it in city after city (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486695) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:43 PM Author: Talented Step-uncle's House Stain Not planning any time soon because I switched from night to day job, hence will continue to live in Miami fulltime. But it might very been a better idea to continue nights and do time arbitrage from Honolulu. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486700) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:46 PM Author: stimulating clown Sounds like a bad idea to be fucking hours and hours away in flight time from everything else. At least with Turkey or Cyprus or Thailand, you have a lot of other shit nearby cheap and easy if you ever want to go somewhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486708) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 7:58 PM Author: Talented Step-uncle's House Stain Well I took a daytime job but my concern is I only get 14weeks vacation. After I stay with them for a year I'll offer them to do some weekends if they let me have more weeks off. I.e. 7on/14off plus 10 regular weeks to equate to full time. Otherwise may go back to nights and just work parttime (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487285) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:42 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs 1. Weather infinitely better 2. Beaches better 3. Surfing better
Main downside is almost zero WOCs and other Black people. |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:44 PM Author: slippery flatulent sanctuary There are no Blacks, very few whites. Almost entirely AZNs and Hispanics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487029) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 8:01 PM Author: Talented Step-uncle's House Stain I don't like surfing. When I was there the only beach that was swimmable was that Ala Moana with natural coral reef, sharks couldn't get in there. It was good and as such makes for a nice staycation if I worked several night weeks. But don't see how the weather or beach is actually better than Miami. Its now 70-80 in Miami and will stay this way through end of april, id say very similar climate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487289) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 11:43 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Miami gets way too hot in summer and too cold in winter hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487735) |
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Date: December 6th, 2025 10:28 AM Author: Talented Step-uncle's House Stain maybe it's hotter than Honolulu in the summer. But it's definitely not cold in the winter. Which is why I would actually prefer Sarasota climate as it gets cooler half the year (still swimmable but cold in winter). I prefer to just go to colder countries in the summer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49488245) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 11:44 PM Author: dead shitlib pit You are a gay nigger Boor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487736) |
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Date: December 6th, 2025 10:39 AM Author: Mint swashbuckling hall Weird how your downsides are significantly more calculated to appeal to xoers than your upsides ("surfing" lol). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49488282) |
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Date: December 6th, 2025 10:54 AM Author: Exhilarant Chrome Dingle Berry Office Ya he lists literally the best thing about hawaii as its only downside lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49488314) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:46 PM Author: Lascivious sound barrier sex offender But at what cost? How much does that shit cost, nigga (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486705) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:44 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Let's just say you couldn't afford to be my neighbor and leave it at that, bud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486855) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:54 PM Author: At-the-ready hospital Are your neighbors mostly fellow semi-retired GenXers or Chinamen or what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486888) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:01 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Can't think of any GenXers. Mostly old long-time people, with a few new old haoles mixed in. Come to think of it, there is one house that just has young Chinese people coming and going who don't seem to speak English. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486913) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:04 PM Author: Transparent main people Chinese or Japanese? I know Hawaii is super Japanese. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486922) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:04 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Chinese. I know my Japanese as well as I know myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486925) |
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Date: December 6th, 2025 12:02 AM Author: filthy razzle-dazzle menage laser beams do you think there are any other white guys who speak japanese who are into WOCs? you're one of a kind (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487759) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 1:24 AM Author: Puce abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49498482) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:55 PM Author: Lascivious sound barrier sex offender so u are a gay onlyfans faggot selling ur ass for $200 a pop? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486889) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:00 PM Author: motley pea-brained temple filthpig Looking at pictures of it right now. Your kitchen is very, very small. Did you get it remodeled? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486911) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:05 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Not yet. Need to get more money first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486929) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 8:17 PM Author: motley pea-brained temple filthpig You're wealthy af. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487322) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 10:56 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs I'm not though. It's been a dry spell for a bit. This year we're pushing as much income as we can to 2026 so that I can get free tuition for my oldest in 2027. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49495589) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:03 PM Author: Transparent main people Do the rocks in the back of the pool function as a waterfall? I have one of those (and it is bigger and more impressive) but it is, uh, broken. Please don't lol at me XO. At least I fixed the main hot tub in the house (no longer a terrarium). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486918) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Yeah, it has a weak stream, but makes a nice sound. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486936) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:23 PM Author: Transparent main people Weak stream but nice sound tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486977) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:45 PM Author: slippery flatulent sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487036) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: cruel-hearted walnut puppy dilemma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49486935) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Yapping olive famous landscape painting parlour First time going to Maui for 6 days in February. Is that too long, will I be bored? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487052) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 6:43 PM Author: dead shitlib pit Maui is basically a homeless man on meth and crack's version of Queensland. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487145) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 7:10 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Nah it sounds about right, if you're able to relax. I'd definitely find an AirBnB out around Hana and take the road out there and back. This is best in a convertible if possible.
Also, make sure to go here: https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/dsp/parks/maui/iao-valley-state-monument/ |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 8:12 PM Author: Yapping olive famous landscape painting parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487313) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 12:42 AM Author: Odious Nursing Home Double Fault i went up the road to hana like 15 years ago on some prole tour van. it seemed like a fucking nightmare to drive if you dont do it for a living and know where the roads are going. the prole cartoon samoan guy driving was jerking the car around the whole time and there were still like 15 cars lined up behind us the whole time honking on a one lane road lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49495765) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 12:54 AM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs gbti friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49495781) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 1:06 AM Author: Odious Nursing Home Double Fault im not the one with tranny kids lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49495793) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 7:43 PM Author: Startling piazza 6 days is about right for Maui. Do something outside every day. Hana one day and drive the whole road back. Lao valley. Makena beach. Go up the windward side of West Maui too. That’s a trip. Lots of good hiking. When I went to Maui after about 3 days I really started worrying about my kids. When I went to Oahu I was having a gout attack and couldn’t walk right. |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 8:12 PM Author: Yapping olive famous landscape painting parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487314) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 6:16 PM Author: supple associate weed whacker 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487095) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 6:39 PM Author: dead shitlib pit From what I have been told the best of Hawaii is a homeless man's on meth and coke version of Queensland. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487139) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 8:04 PM Author: Saffron round eye gunner Extremely disappointed no cock. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487293) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: soul-stirring blathering property Poasting from the LIH lounge! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487465) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 11:08 PM Author: soul-stirring blathering property And now the HNL lounge! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487678) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 11:45 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs E komo mai my friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487737) |
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Date: December 5th, 2025 11:47 PM Author: thriller soggy ticket booth We have now seen 3 of EPAH’s homes: current, Marin, and SF. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487738) |
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Date: December 6th, 2025 12:01 AM Author: dead shitlib pit Hawaii is TTT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49487754) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 10:59 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Can't stop thinking about those floors in my place in Marin. It's kind of a weird that even though my HI property cost about 2X, I basically went in reverse as far as the space that I live in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49495600) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 11:04 PM Author: filthy razzle-dazzle menage laser beams location location location, my brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49495609) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 12:14 AM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Yah. I might've been over-ambitious in getting 1/2 acre lot though. Some retarded thugs in black robes took $4-5M from me, so I'm not really in a position to rebuild this place. And now that the kids are almost all gone, I might buy this small empty lot down the street and Start Fresh (as Bboom has consistently advised us all to do). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806600&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#49495735) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 9:29 AM Author: filthy razzle-dazzle menage laser beams did they rule against you on the fees awarded vs handsome ted boutros? or what. it's all flame you can probably win another one.
but yeah absolutely your house looked massive down there and personally i wouldn't need that much space or a pool or whatever if i'm that close to diamond head - nothing wrong with starting fresh |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: Contagious institution hairy legs Yeah, lol. On a contractual prevailing party fees provision, they were like, "You both won, so you both get $11M in fees from the other."
Mind you, this is a contract under Florida law, and the Florida SCOTUS has held in many cases that in a fee dispute, there can only be one prevailing party. So these retars wrote a mem dispo that didn't mention any of that controlling authority, but just said "in equity you both won."
It'll still be $8M to us, but it should have been $12 or so. |
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