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Reminder: NSAM v. Sealclubber discourse is what 80% of Americans have re: Israel
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Date: September 19th, 2024 11:59 AM Author: black razzle-dazzle temple the ones that bother caring about it at all.
are two dumbest poasters arguing "well it was targeted and probably a false flag anyway, israel has a right to use whatever force it wants" versus "jews are deploying alien tech gamma neutron bombs" is the exact type of retard scuffling mix of midwittery and conspiracy blather you'd hear at any american bar at 1am. |
Date: September 19th, 2024 12:16 PM Author: costumed razzle base I'm curious. Your position re: UKR/RUS seemed to be mostly about what was going to be the result, not what was "right". In other words, because rus's victory was impossible to stop, the west should stop intervening and let things develop. Not that you ever approved of rus's actions, but it was pragmatic.
In this case, israel destroyed means of communication and kill/maimed some/many/few/?? Hezbollah participants/militants/friends/family/??. Today, Israel is launching air strikes against Hezbollah areas of s. Lebanon.
Shouldn't we just pragmatically accept that Hezbollah is going to eat shit and stop complaining?
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Date: September 19th, 2024 12:33 PM Author: black razzle-dazzle temple this thread is making fun of retards on both sides, wasn't trying to start an actual debate, but i'll indulge.
first, to be clear, there is an important distinction between what i think american's role in foreign conflicts should be versus what i think of the conflicts themselves. specifically, i don't think america should be doing any foreign intervention. especially not unilaterally. just because i don't think the us should intervene or fund x, y, or z does not mean i support the opposite.
as far as what i think of the conflicts themselves:
russia v. ukraine: it's a complicated region with a long history involving a mix of cultures and people i'm not familiar enough with to come down hard one way or the other re: which side is righteous. but you're framing this purely in resisting and irresistible military force. the west does not have the will to resist russia, so even if ukraine was righteous, the opportunity to shit or get off the pot was a couple years ago. these endless proxy wars that have been happening since the end of ww2 are destructive and accomplish nothing. the conflict should be resolved one way or the other asap.
israel v. everyone: the morality here is much clearer. israel is in the wrong. there's a reason everyone in the region hates them. as far as military might, the only reason israel is stronger is because of the west. the key difference between russia being stronger than ukraine and israel being stronger than it's neighbors is russia is strong on it's own and israel is only strong with the support of the west. if israel was strong on it's own and we did not have the will to aid their enemies, then i would say the same thing i do with russia.
the key difference is we're aiding israel and ukraine. so trying to boil down my thoughts to "we should just let things develop as they inevitably will" is misplaced when we have the thumb on both scales. |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 12:46 PM Author: deranged hall you spent a lot of time writing that drivel and are completely wrong on israel being in the wrong. loser |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:00 PM Author: deep jewess area no he isn't, you stupid fucking jewbag and guess what? more and more people agree with what he said every single day.
you fucking faggots are gonna be done here and experiencing anuddah shoah soon enough -within your lifetime. |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:07 PM Author: fear-inspiring tripping market becky you get all your opinions from "Ben Shapiro" and are an intellectual light-weight listen to your betters |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:11 PM Author: deranged hall you get all your opinions from the squad. are those the betters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109279) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:12 PM Author: fear-inspiring tripping market becky i get my opinions from Adolf Hitler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109287) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:14 PM Author: black razzle-dazzle temple yeah, when i think of MASEtp i think of an AOC supporting socialist.
israel has universal healthcare btw. |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:19 PM Author: deep jewess area which we finance with kike welfare.
this idiot sees no contradiction in being anti-safety net on the one hand, but all gung ho sucking israel's dick on the other, when israel has all this welfare shit that he'd be opposed to if we had it.
basically, this moronic kike is cool with his money paying for jews to have universal healthcare, but it would be bad if his money was going to pay for universal healthcare here. oh wait, his money would be going to goys if his tax dollars went to pay for universal healthcare for US citizens so i can see why he's opposed. |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:22 PM Author: black razzle-dazzle temple it's probably the most frustrating thing about the israel-first neocons. they will rant and rave all day about socialism and how we shouldn't provide resources to our own people, and in the very next breath say we need to give israel endless billions.
sealclubber somehow even removes the step of "next breath" and just defaults to calling anyone against israel (a socialist state by us standards) of being a socialist. WHAT?! |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:27 PM Author: deranged hall not an answer. who are these supposed betters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109357) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:31 PM Author: black razzle-dazzle temple "you get all your opinions from the squad. are those the betters?"
i was not attempting to answer your question, but pointing out how the the first sentence in your poast is silly as MASE has never expressed any socialist leaning afaik.
your poast was two sentences long and you still got lost in keeping up with which part i was responding to. |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 3:09 PM Author: deranged hall who are the betters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109852) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 3:50 PM Author: deep jewess area for starters, corky from the tv program life goes on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109997) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 5:09 PM Author: deranged hall guy who watched life goes on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48110306) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 7:27 PM Author: deep jewess area great burn, retard
i did, in fact, watch episodes of that show here and there (not sure how that is even a bad thing). but leaving that aside, "corky" is in the lexicon and is known to people who have never seen a single minute of the show.
you dumb fucker. |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 4:28 PM Author: deranged hall who are the betters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48114075) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 12:57 PM Author: costumed razzle base "i'm not familiar enough with to come down hard one way or the other re: which side is righteous"
damn bro.
"the west does not have the will to resist russia"
I just don't know what to say. they are doing that right now.
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more to the point, we just have a fundamental different outlook. i think isolationism is unrealistic and unprofitable. it wasn't realistic in 1797 and its not realistic today.
but i understand. |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:02 PM Author: black razzle-dazzle temple this is xo and i struggle with concise writing as it is, so take my poasts a bit more charitably than black and white. of course i don't believe in absolute isolation, which is why i said "especially unilaterally." but there is a giant spectrum between being a completely isolated nation and being involved in foreign affairs to the degree the west is today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109231) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:05 PM Author: costumed razzle base i wasn't trying to unreasonably describe your position. i've already exceeded my intended effort ITT I just get lazy. Its all good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109251) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:13 PM Author: black razzle-dazzle temple i didn't think you were and weren't accusing of that. i just wanted to clarify that i do think the us has a fairly large role to play in the international community. there are plenty of people here that would actually like to go back to the 1700s, so it wouldn't be ridiculous for you to think that was my position. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109292) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:12 PM Author: deranged hall you struggle, alright (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109284) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:02 PM Author: Cheese-eating voyeur STATE why Israel shouldn't conquer and subjugate the Middle East in the name of the American empire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109236) |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 1:05 PM Author: black razzle-dazzle temple 1) we already have abundant resources and our people are still struggling. any resources we gain from more imperialism will only enrich the ruling class further.
2) it's immoral. muzbros have a right to their land and lives. |
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Date: September 19th, 2024 12:35 PM Author: Sooty theater stage I refuse to believe American society as a whole has fallen that much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5597840&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864",#48109104) |