Ukraine troops are all retreating from the front lines
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Poast new message in this thread
Date: November 25th, 2025 12:57 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
They know it's over
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49459525) |
Date: December 1st, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474782) |
Date: December 1st, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
At this point I'm more scared of Putin agreeing to a shitty deal than anything else.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474798) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:08 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Obviously 200k Russians killed is very sad. And since Ukrainians are just delusional Russians the true number will be many times higher. But at least it will serve as a warning for idiots that support the next Western backed color revolution jumping up and down like idiots with cringey slogans like "whoever doesn't jump is a Moskal!!!1".
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474992) |
Date: December 1st, 2025 3:22 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,.....................
Nice link. We've all agreed that Kiev or Odessa are minimum requirements for a Russian victory- how soon before they take one of those?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474822) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Odessa + Kharkov. Kiev - idk about that. If they end up with Kharkov and Odessa but no Kiev then that's still a clear win.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474917) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474925) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:49 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Kharkov, Kiev?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474936) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
lol, I think not.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474959) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
February is in 2 months. But good luck with that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474985) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:52 PM Author: Senior Ethics Official
They havent made outright legal claims for either odessa or kiev.
The sloviansk/kramatorsk agglomeration + zaporhizia would be argued by russia as a de facto victory. Clear cut victory would require retaking kherson too. But that seems really unlikely.
At the current pace it seems totally reasonable for russia to take both sloviansk and zap under siege during 2026 and actually take them in 2027.
True its pretty meager. But still worse for ukraine than what could have been had in 2022. Without the millions of death and awful slav migrants invading our public spaces. But hey at least we got to pay higher gas prices in the meantime!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474940) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:04 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Given the acceleration I don't see Sloviansk or Kramatorsk lasting until 2027. By 2027 I think we'll see a legit collapse E. of the Dnepr. Ukraine just doesn't have the manpower to keep this going.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474979) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:10 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
The EU is still sending huge amounts of money. Half the cabinet is vacant because they're not willing to reduce their share, so they're reducing the number of people with their hands out.
The military command is filled with exactly the same sort of people.
A pro-Russian figure? Like who, Arestovich? None of these people will allow that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474999) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:20 PM Author: Senior Ethics Official
Meh. People have been saying that since june '22.look at the actual progress. Suriyaks new map is pretty helpful in understanding the pace of gains. 2025 was only slightly more than 2024. I get it all depends on future pace of acceleration. But theres no reason to assume weve arrived at some inflection point of exponential territory gains. its been really really slow and linear acceleration.
ukraine surrendered its sovereignty and is now managed by an efficient nato decision making cadre with access to deep intelligenxe. The "benefit" to this is the nato managers can dispassionately order a place like myrnograd to make 3rd reich-like stands for months rather than retreat for domestic casualty concerns.
The mext gen intelligence + removal from domestic polticial pressure has made the nato command structure suprisingly effective at plugging gaps. It still takes many days for russians to take little hamlets on the way to huliapole. Huliapole is a fait accompli but it will still take weeks if not months to unfold.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49475024)
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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:50 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Ukraine stans are acting like this is nbd but Ukraine is losing strategically important shit quickly and with minimal resistance that was holding firm since the start of the war.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474938) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
The "the foreign aid gravy trains" are the entire point. And yes, that includes for Zelensky, the EU, the UK, and the US MIC. Losing Kharkov, Odessa or all of Ukraine is irrelevant as long as there is at least some justification to send taxpayer dollars, pounds and Euros somewhere that the various parties can skim off of.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474967) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474987) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:58 PM
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Regaining the Donbas is the absolute minimum face-saving result that Russia can accept in the war. Putin has made this clear time and time again. Since Ukraine doesn't want to be fighting Russia forever, it seems clear that they are just in a mode of making it as costly for Russia as they can. I doubt there's anyone in Kiev leadership who expects to have the Donbas at the end of the war.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474957) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
True, but if Russia only gets the Donbass that will not really be a victory. At the very best, it will be a draw. Personally, I would view that as Ukraine winning.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474972) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:07 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,.....................
Agreed, which is why I roll my eyes whenever some board Russiamo makes some breathless poast bragging about Russia moving the front lines in the Donbas. When you look at the big strategic picture, the ruins of the Donbas are the Ukraine War equivalent of Allen Iverson's "practice" rant.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49474989) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:11 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
I mean they could have nuked all of Ukraine in 2022. I'm not sure what your point is here. Yes, anyone that knows what's up knows that Putin runs Russia like an accountant from big 4 and not Stalin.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49475004) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:18 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
The US wouldn't do shit except "object strenuously." The real issue is that a promise was made to China not to open pandora's box.
Yes, I agree that internally it would have been very unpopular as well (the "origin story" being a part of the issue).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802317&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49475019) |
Date: December 1st, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
Good news! Ukraine has a shitload of weapons and no plans to use them. Ever.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/65105
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