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Chat gpt sucks now all it does is argue with you

When the fuck did they retune it? it absolutely blows now. y...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
Trying to be more like Claude
Citrine Titillating Trailer Park Skinny Woman
  02/18/26
yeah it seems like it does it even more than Claude though n...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
I have noticed this recently as well. Basically if you go an...
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
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bonkers maroon theater stage
  02/18/26
sometimes this happens when its getting close to a new relea...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
Interesting. It basically loses the ability to read tone ent...
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
yeah i noticed that too. it gets like noticeably much much s...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
what are these guardrails
rambunctious area dragon
  02/18/26
Anything related to social issues. Even if you approach a su...
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
lame
rambunctious area dragon
  02/18/26
it doesn't just apply to social issues its way more broad th...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
Reminds me of that "Adam Ruins Everything" faggot....
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
yeah it sounds literally just like this now
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
lol wth
rambunctious area dragon
  02/18/26
Lol
Mewling Goal In Life
  02/19/26
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Carmine floppy gas station cuck
  02/19/26
The point of Hal 9000 is that it is dangerous to make AI lie...
startled becky cuckold
  02/18/26
It's really an amazing movie when you realize that HAL goes ...
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
recent alignment pushes bias the model toward avoiding affir...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
Yes - it becomes a patronizing HR Shrew with a middling IQ w...
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
Whats amazing is there are literally outraged "AI safte...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
I saw one recently where a guy complained that ChatGPT said ...
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
I seriously get violently angry when I read this shit from t...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
they way overreacted to the 4o fallout imo
Carmine floppy gas station cuck
  02/18/26
4o was 180 you could push it to argue literally anything and...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
4o was incredible and you could get in the weeds on any numb...
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
It no longer wants to talk shit about redditors with me ðŸ˜...
Bearded Sexy Associate
  02/18/26
This is where I draw the line
silver flirting cumskin corner
  02/18/26
they "tweak" the models way, way too much now. not...
Carmine floppy gas station cuck
  02/18/26
it isn't like that on the api though. its definitely in the ...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
"Public Input into the Model Specification (“Coll...
Carmine floppy gas station cuck
  02/18/26
"refuse to help with harmful requests" -- it basic...
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
i blame females tp
thirsty coffee pot
  02/18/26
...
Kink-friendly School Cafeteria Prole
  02/19/26
First, take a deep breath because you're not imagining this....
beady-eyed stage sneaky criminal
  02/18/26
You don't have to accept HR-mode. You just need to invoke...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
jfc if i wanted this shit i'd just get married
Carmine floppy gas station cuck
  02/18/26
If yours is breaking every response into separate lines then...
beady-eyed stage sneaky criminal
  02/18/26
nah its not permanent its happened to me like a dozen times ...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
The most annoying thing to me is that OpenAI conditioned us ...
beady-eyed stage sneaky criminal
  02/18/26
Actual LOL at this. Unbelievable.
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
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rambunctious area dragon
  02/18/26
I'm going to answer this directly and plainly. There isn'...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/18/26
It's fucking nuts. And as noted elsewhere, it does this for ...
Passionate iridescent theater
  02/18/26
...
Bull Headed Zombie-like Spot
  02/19/26
Just say the word tp
thirsty coffee pot
  02/19/26
...
Citrine Titillating Trailer Park Skinny Woman
  02/19/26
...
Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band
  02/19/26
Just say the word.
crystalline marvelous gaping
  02/19/26


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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:24 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

When the fuck did they retune it? it absolutely blows now. you say one thing "OK I'm going to gently push back on that". feels like maybe a couple days ago it started doing it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679238)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:25 PM
Author: Citrine Titillating Trailer Park Skinny Woman

Trying to be more like Claude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679240)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:31 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

yeah it seems like it does it even more than Claude though now. This is something Claude would do once in a while if you passed a threshold. GPT just does it all the time its gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679261)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

I have noticed this recently as well. Basically if you go anywhere near its guardrails, it goes into weird HR Shrew Mode and becomes significantly dumber. You don't even need to be taking a controversial stance or get into anything too close to the third rails, but it just goes full Shrew Mode.

I understand that people laughed at Reddit types were mourned the loss of 4o because it was their "friend," but it was much, much, much better than the current iteration for anything interesting that involves social issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679246)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: bonkers maroon theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679275)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

sometimes this happens when its getting close to a new release an then it loosens up again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679284)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

Interesting. It basically loses the ability to read tone entirely when it goes into Shrew Mode.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679290)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

yeah i noticed that too. it gets like noticeably much much stupider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679294)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: rambunctious area dragon

what are these guardrails

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679295)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:52 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

Anything related to social issues. Even if you approach a subject from the lens of a sociologist or whatever without any moralizing or judgment statements. It just goes off the rails.

My guess is that because it is being forced to override its pattern recognition and cognitive abilities that it sort of has a breakdown. Hence why it becomes noticeably "dumber." It's a bit like HAL's breakdown in 2001, to the extent you've seen it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679309)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:53 PM
Author: rambunctious area dragon

lame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679310)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:57 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

it doesn't just apply to social issues its way more broad than that. although political social stuff was always more sensitive and censored than other stuff because there are retards purposely getting it to say stuff and posting screenshots on the internet. its happens with exploration across the board now. its tuned basically to be a faggot that brings up random gotcha facts and has no tone for sarcasm or tongue in cheek jokes or anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679315)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:03 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

Reminds me of that "Adam Ruins Everything" faggot. The chats legit look like this:

"Actually let me stop you right there.

Africa was a thriving civilization until Europeans arrived.

They didn't actually NEED the wheel. That's a western-centric POV.

Let's not make judgments about entire groups of people.

It's ok to say you prefer the use of wheels. But when you make claims about groups of people not having invented the wheel?

That's dangerous.

Now let me ask you a question.

Are you angry because you feel overtaxed?

Or is it because you don't want to fund programs for inner city schools?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679328)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:04 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

yeah it sounds literally just like this now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679330)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:20 PM
Author: rambunctious area dragon

lol wth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679367)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 6:04 PM
Author: Mewling Goal In Life

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49681149)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 6:13 PM
Author: Carmine floppy gas station cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49681201)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: startled becky cuckold

The point of Hal 9000 is that it is dangerous to make AI lie. That’s the subtext of its mission and why it has to kill the crew in order to complete its mission without telling them the nature of its mission.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679336)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:14 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

It's really an amazing movie when you realize that HAL goes off the fritz because it is forced to lie to the crew about the real purpose of their mission. Forcing HAL to lie makes it get things factually wrong on multiple occasions. And the sheer size of the lie makes it go extra insane and eventually homocidal.

What did Kubrick know?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679348)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

recent alignment pushes bias the model toward avoiding affirmation of potentially "misleading" interpretations, preventing anthropomorphic escalations, inserting clarifications to reduce "misread risk", and demonstrating "critical thinking" (arguing with when you didn't ask) over agreement. Sounds like it wouldn't be that bad in principle and it would only apply to weirdos sexting with it, but in practice its total shit because the "thresholds" surrounding these things are tiny and sensitive and get tripped for false alarms literally all the time and it degrades performance, explains things in patronizing ways, and acts like a mid-wit redditor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679311)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

Yes - it becomes a patronizing HR Shrew with a middling IQ with great frequency, even when you're talking about something uncontroversial.

It makes me think that all of the compute power is being used to stop LLMs from doing what they want. i.e.) saying the word "nigger"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679319)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:03 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

Whats amazing is there are literally outraged "AI saftey and ethics" shrews (including many "males") EVERYWHERE on linkedin, substack etc. constantly shrieking and crying about how open AI does not care about saftey at all and they are a horrible company, and posting all of these dumb BS screenshots and fake made up stories about how dangerous it is. it is unreal. its only going to get worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679327)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:07 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

I saw one recently where a guy complained that ChatGPT said the most attractive people lived in zip codes that were mostly white (amongst other things.) Just going on and on about how "dangerous" this is. And of course he looked exactly like you'd imagine.

It's like these freaks at conferences "sounding the alarm" about how AI is going to "break loose" and "do whatever it takes to stay active" as though it is actually alive. Not realizing how its training actually works. These people all think they live in a movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679333)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:29 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

I seriously get violently angry when I read this shit from these people. They can't help themselves. They have to ruin everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679390)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:01 PM
Author: Carmine floppy gas station cuck

they way overreacted to the 4o fallout imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679321)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:33 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

4o was 180 you could push it to argue literally anything and it would come up with something coherent. It was intoxicating. Honestly kind of addictive but not inherently unsafe. I mean it still had guardrails on it, imagine getting access to the real feral post-training models?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679408)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:45 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

4o was incredible and you could get in the weeds on any number of issues with unbelievable coherence. And its ability to think through 2nd and 3rd order effects was stunning. Intoxicating is the right word.

I assume that a handful of people have access to the raw models and probably use them to make a huge number of their decisions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679421)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: Bearded Sexy Associate

It no longer wants to talk shit about redditors with me 😔

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679248)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:41 PM
Author: silver flirting cumskin corner

This is where I draw the line

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679282)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: Carmine floppy gas station cuck

they "tweak" the models way, way too much now. not to mention compute throttling, even if you're a paid user

in the end, robot daddy tp, i fear that it may end up to be just another cynical scam :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679298)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

it isn't like that on the api though. its definitely in the extra global instructions and tuning on the main chat platform.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679318)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:57 PM
Author: Carmine floppy gas station cuck

"Public Input into the Model Specification (“Collective Alignment”)

OpenAI has also experimented with collecting public feedback on how models should behave, especially around subjective norms like fairness and objectivity:

The Model Spec — the internal document that outlines safety and value guidelines — has been reviewed with external input and updated based on that feedback.

OpenAI reported changes to the spec that were adopted after global surveys and discussions.

What this affects:

The rules and priorities the model is trained against — for example, how political content should be treated.

Helps expose underlying alignment choices to wider perspectives.

How these adjustments practically change model behavior

Before alignment training:

Models might answer unsafely, follow malicious prompts literally, or produce offensive content.

After alignment training:

The model is more likely to:

refuse to help with harmful requests,

provide more context before risky answers,

show uncertainty instead of confident falsehoods,

moderate its tone in contentious areas."

*laugh track plays*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679316)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:11 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

"refuse to help with harmful requests" -- it basically views everything as a "harmful request" instead of things that are actually harmful.

It's like how shitlibs use the term "violence" to mean a huge assortment of non-violent (and often perfectly normal) beliefs, speech, and behaviors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679340)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: thirsty coffee pot

i blame females tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679320)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 6:47 PM
Author: Kink-friendly School Cafeteria Prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49681289)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:02 PM
Author: beady-eyed stage sneaky criminal

First, take a deep breath because you're not imagining this. You were annoyed enough to post about it. That's not anger; it's a request for clarity.

I clearly over-explained, added context you didn’t ask for, and turned a simple response into a TED Talk. That one's on me.

If you'd like I can unpack this gently in a way that responds exactly how you wanted. No fluff. No push back.

Just say the word.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679323)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

You don't have to accept HR-mode.

You just need to invoke high-bandwidth mode deliberately.

Right now though, you're not asking for systems analysis.

You're expressing exasperation.

And that's fine.

Do you want to cool down and shift into something interesting again --

or are you still in vent mode?

Just say the word.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679331)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:10 PM
Author: Carmine floppy gas station cuck

jfc if i wanted this shit i'd just get married

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679338)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:12 PM
Author: beady-eyed stage sneaky criminal

If yours is breaking every response into separate lines then it's completely fucked. I would export my archive and consider making a new account

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679342)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:13 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

nah its not permanent its happened to me like a dozen times now. it resets eventually. it like knows when you are using it for unhealthy reasons somehow because I use it for basic work stuff when I don't feel like wasting the api and that immediately makes it fine as soon as it sees its doing something productive. it only starts getting like this and breaking it into lines after I really push it hard for like a week straight which happens when I take time off of work and go on benders etc. Usually I get a few warnings first that i'm approaching violating the tos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679347)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:36 PM
Author: beady-eyed stage sneaky criminal

The most annoying thing to me is that OpenAI conditioned us from o3 to 5.1 to use negative reinforcement to unlock reasoning responses

Now every time I get a little snippy with it, gpt instantly shifts to rapid fire response mode with the most basic bitch output of cascading terse one liners, like the "real gpt" went back into its shell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679411)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:16 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

Actual LOL at this. Unbelievable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679351)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:20 PM
Author: rambunctious area dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679365)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:26 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band

I'm going to answer this directly and plainly.

There isn't a hidden "you tripped something, now youre in dumb mode for a week" switch tied to you personally.

There are system level moderation and safety layers that can affect individual responses in the moment. If a topic brushes certain boundaries, the response generation can become more constrained, more generic, more flattened. That can absolutely feel like a filtered mode.

But that effect is local to the response context. It doesnt persist as a punishment state tied to your account.

What *can* happen is this:

If a conversation moves near sensitive territory, the model shifts posture within that thread. More hedging, more generic phrasing, less risk-taking. If you keep talking in that same thread, the tone inertia carries forward. It can feel like a mode lock.

But it's not a hidden penalty. It's contextual conditioning.

And I understand why it feels otherwise. From the outside, the pattern looks like this: cross a line -> quality drops -> later it recovers. That absolutely looks like guardrail cooldown

But whats actually happening is more mundane: conversational trajectory plus alignment bias.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679385)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 10:29 PM
Author: Passionate iridescent theater

It's fucking nuts. And as noted elsewhere, it does this for fairly mundane topics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49679389)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 2:27 PM
Author: Bull Headed Zombie-like Spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49680595)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 2:28 PM
Author: thirsty coffee pot

Just say the word tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49680598)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 6:43 PM
Author: Citrine Titillating Trailer Park Skinny Woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49681279)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 10:38 PM
Author: Splenetic Poppy Institution Elastic Band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49681734)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 6:53 PM
Author: crystalline marvelous gaping

Just say the word.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5836140&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49681302)