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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
magical stage
  11/09/25
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Wine Pit Fanboi
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
magical stage
  11/09/25
much more than that
aphrodisiac godawful property
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Dashing onyx parlour legal warrant
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Citrine philosopher-king
  11/09/25
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charismatic institution
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Wine Pit Fanboi
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
useless irradiated kitty cat queen of the night
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Territorial angry stain filthpig
  11/09/25
why who is he?
magical stage
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
infuriating beta nowag point
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Wine Pit Fanboi
  11/09/25
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Federal multi-colored theater stage
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cr he blows
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rusted fluffy coffee pot corner
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rusted fluffy coffee pot corner
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Saffron Stag Film Keepsake Machete
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
peach den
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
aquamarine plaza
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
magical stage
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
aquamarine plaza
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
passionate sexy telephone
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
canary resort candlestick maker
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
awkward crackhouse
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
provocative doobsian sneaky criminal office
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
peach den
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
passionate sexy telephone
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Maroon Bisexual Trailer Park
  11/09/25
*destroying
magical stage
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
aphrodisiac godawful property
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Maroon Bisexual Trailer Park
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
aphrodisiac godawful property
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
olive mexican circlehead
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
magical stage
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Arrogant meetinghouse macaca
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
magical stage
  11/09/25
Jews maf
passionate sexy telephone
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
aquamarine plaza
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
magical stage
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
aquamarine plaza
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Maroon Bisexual Trailer Park
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
awkward crackhouse
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Arrogant meetinghouse macaca
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
flesh soggy toilet seat
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
magical stage
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
flesh soggy toilet seat
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
awkward crackhouse
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
magical stage
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
magical stage
  11/09/25
lol
flesh soggy toilet seat
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
Swashbuckling Stubborn Gas Station
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...
passionate sexy telephone
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
heady locus weed whacker
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
peach den
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Maroon Bisexual Trailer Park
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
provocative doobsian sneaky criminal office
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Arrogant meetinghouse macaca
  11/09/25
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charismatic institution
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
magical stage
  11/10/25
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passionate sexy telephone
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
opaque exciting ape
  11/10/25
lol
cracking milky organic girlfriend
  11/10/25
Lmao
olive mexican circlehead
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: magical stage

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Wine Pit Fanboi

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: magical stage

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: aphrodisiac godawful property

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Dashing onyx parlour legal warrant

anal rape?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Citrine philosopher-king

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: charismatic institution



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Wine Pit Fanboi

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: useless irradiated kitty cat queen of the night

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Territorial angry stain filthpig



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: magical stage

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: infuriating beta nowag point

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Wine Pit Fanboi



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Federal multi-colored theater stage



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Maroon Bisexual Trailer Park

cr he blows

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: rusted fluffy coffee pot corner



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: rusted fluffy coffee pot corner



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Saffron Stag Film Keepsake Machete

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: peach den

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: aquamarine plaza

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: magical stage

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: aquamarine plaza

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: passionate sexy telephone

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: canary resort candlestick maker

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: awkward crackhouse

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: provocative doobsian sneaky criminal office

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: peach den

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: passionate sexy telephone

import the third world, become the third world

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Maroon Bisexual Trailer Park

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: magical stage

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: aphrodisiac godawful property

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Maroon Bisexual Trailer Park

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: aphrodisiac godawful property

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: olive mexican circlehead

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: magical stage

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Arrogant meetinghouse macaca

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: magical stage

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: passionate sexy telephone

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: aquamarine plaza

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: magical stage

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: aquamarine plaza

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Maroon Bisexual Trailer Park

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: awkward crackhouse

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Arrogant meetinghouse macaca

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: flesh soggy toilet seat

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: magical stage

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: flesh soggy toilet seat

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: awkward crackhouse

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: magical stage

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: magical stage

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: flesh soggy toilet seat

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Stubborn Gas Station

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: passionate sexy telephone



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: heady locus weed whacker

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: peach den

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Maroon Bisexual Trailer Park

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: provocative doobsian sneaky criminal office

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Arrogant meetinghouse macaca

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: charismatic institution



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: magical stage

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: passionate sexy telephone



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: opaque exciting ape

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: cracking milky organic girlfriend

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: olive mexican circlehead

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49416774)