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King & Spaulding counsel dies after falling off mountain

https://www.law.com/dailyreportonline/2025/12/01/king--spald...
magical stead
  12/08/25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kAIMlISHhU
Confused roommate boltzmann
  12/08/25
technical article on the death: https://www.climbing.com/...
Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/08/25
he was with a guide and died together w his guide wtf
Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/08/25
a scholar: He attended Swarthmore College, where he gradu...
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  12/08/25
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  12/08/25
I guess it is the money, but why would a guy with that acade...
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  12/08/25
Dindu Thunderdome High?
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  12/08/25
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Confused roommate boltzmann
  12/08/25
no jerbs? how many tenure-track faculty jobs come available ...
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  12/08/25
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saffron home
  12/08/25
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Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/08/25
https://archive.ph/aeaDT
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  12/12/25
Ran here
Razzle-dazzle hell
  12/08/25
holy shit lede buried: In an interview with Stuff, his mo...
Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/08/25
"I'm gay btw. So was my son."
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Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
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Motley candlestick maker liquid oxygen
  12/08/25
"we're all a buncha fags here"
Hairraiser cumskin stage
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Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
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The XOXO Family
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fishy swashbuckling really tough guy
  12/12/25
the more I think about it the crazier it is she had to w...
emerald offensive national security agency
  12/08/25
nah. the author probably wanted a quote about the human side...
Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/08/25
Peak moment when somebody using the moniker "nude litig...
concupiscible principal's office
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vengeful range party of the first part
  12/08/25
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Razzle-dazzle hell
  12/08/25
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Clear angry theater macaca
  12/09/25
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up-to-no-good church building
  12/09/25
RIP lex
emerald offensive national security agency
  12/08/25
To: All Attorneys Reminder To Close Out Time When You Fee...
Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
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Razzle-dazzle hell
  12/08/25
4 year BA 7 year PhD 3 year JD 1 year clerkship 7 years ...
Confused roommate boltzmann
  12/08/25
under those circumstances, plus being gay and no family, it'...
Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/08/25
preftigious scholar and faggot
beady-eyed philosopher-king
  12/08/25
the scholarship died with him
Titillating Spot Patrolman
  12/08/25
Am I the only one that was a little disheartened to discover...
Erotic twinkling indian lodge
  12/08/25
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Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/08/25
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Razzle-dazzle hell
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He died while fumbling phone as he responded to partners ema...
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Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/08/25
"It's been 17 minutes and you haven't responded to my e...
Hairraiser cumskin stage
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Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
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Razzle-dazzle hell
  12/08/25
On balance, he was off balance /soyface
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Razzle-dazzle hell
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Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
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Bateful Sickened Theater Stage Sex Offender
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Motley candlestick maker liquid oxygen
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12,218ft Lol you can drive to places higher than that. What ...
180 mustard field immigrant
  12/08/25
And this stupid bort says litigators don't have exit options
coral private investor
  12/08/25
amazing thread
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  12/08/25
that twinge of envy every lawyer feels upon learning of the ...
Insanely Creepy Flushed Business Firm
  12/08/25
He 100% posted here
Clear angry theater macaca
  12/09/25
evan39 hasnt been here in a few days hmmmm
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  12/09/25
"At approximately 11:50 p.m. Vialletet and Conover&mdas...
Sadistic arousing meetinghouse double fault
  12/09/25
it's not uncommon. starting at night means colder, firmer s...
Insanely Creepy Flushed Business Firm
  12/09/25
cr. love how xo n00bs try to step up on mountaineering
Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/09/25
And nothing of value was lost.
cobalt galvanic mexican
  12/09/25
Fags are incredibly promiscuous. Even though he was climbing...
Diverse ultramarine center
  12/09/25
probably worth it
Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/09/25
Doesnt look like it would be that difficult to climb
Marvelous crusty office
  12/09/25
i went to the base of mt cook. i'm ok guyz
Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive
  12/09/25
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Marvelous crusty office
  12/09/25
Cooked
Confused roommate boltzmann
  12/09/25


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Date: December 8th, 2025 3:59 PM
Author: magical stead

https://www.law.com/dailyreportonline/2025/12/01/king--spalding-appellate-attorney-dies-while-climbing-new-zealands-tallest-mountain/

https://www.lawfuel.com/tragic-death-in-new-zealand-of-talented-dc-lawyer/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494528)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:04 PM
Author: Confused roommate boltzmann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kAIMlISHhU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494536)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:07 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

technical article on the death:

https://www.climbing.com/news/two-climbers-die-new-zealand-peak-mt-cook/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494545)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:08 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

he was with a guide and died together w his guide wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494551)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:09 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

a scholar:

He attended Swarthmore College, where he graduated magna cum laude with a degree in Greek and Latin, and then earned a Ph.D. in Classics from Princeton University. Conover’s dissertation at Princeton, which explored the ideology of bribery in ancient Athens, earned him the Porter Ogden Jacobus Fellowship, the university’s most prestigious honor, described as given only to students “whose work has displayed the highest scholarly excellence.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494552)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:30 PM
Author: Hairraiser cumskin stage



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:30 PM
Author: Motley candlestick maker liquid oxygen

I guess it is the money, but why would a guy with that academic background not just teach somewhere?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494631)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: Hairraiser cumskin stage

Dindu Thunderdome High?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494633)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:32 PM
Author: Confused roommate boltzmann



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:33 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

no jerbs? how many tenure-track faculty jobs come available every year in the classics? how many go to white males?

even with that background, i bet he had no chance at a jerb at a respectable uni.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494638)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: saffron home



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: Hairraiser cumskin stage

https://classicalstudies.columbia.edu/employment-resources/job-listings

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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive



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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: hairless trailer park hairy legs

https://archive.ph/aeaDT

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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle hell

Ran here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494818)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:10 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

holy shit lede buried:

In an interview with Stuff, his mother, Pam Conover, said her son was “the kindest possible man who always took care of other people.” She recalled how, when she married her wife eight years ago, her son—who was also gay—got himself certified so he could conduct the marriage ceremony for his mother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494557)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:19 PM
Author: Hideous ticket booth

"I'm gay btw. So was my son."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494586)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:29 PM
Author: Motley candlestick maker liquid oxygen



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: Hairraiser cumskin stage

"we're all a buncha fags here"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494632)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: Bateful Sickened Theater Stage Sex Offender



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:38 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive



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Date: December 9th, 2025 5:53 AM
Author: translucent aromatic kitchen

The XOXO Family

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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: fishy swashbuckling really tough guy



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: emerald offensive national security agency

the more I think about it the crazier it is

she had to work *really hard* to get those details in there in a story about him falling off a mountain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494686)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

nah. the author probably wanted a quote about the human side of things...something about his wife and kids... then realized that this guy is a 45y/o queer, and asked the mom to say something human about him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494719)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: concupiscible principal's office

Peak moment when somebody using the moniker "nude litigator" is the most insightful commentator in the thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49496983)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: vengeful range party of the first part



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:43 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle hell



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Date: December 9th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: Clear angry theater macaca



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Date: December 9th, 2025 6:54 AM
Author: up-to-no-good church building



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: emerald offensive national security agency

RIP lex

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494668)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:12 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

To: All Attorneys

Reminder To Close Out Time When You Feel Yourself Slipping Off Any Mountain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494562)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: Avocado Electric Furnace Resort



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:43 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle hell



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: Confused roommate boltzmann

4 year BA

7 year PhD

3 year JD

1 year clerkship

7 years as associate

NOBREAKFAST

fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494574)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

under those circumstances, plus being gay and no family, it's no wonder why you'd engage in risky mountain climbing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494583)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:34 PM
Author: beady-eyed philosopher-king

preftigious scholar and faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494641)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: Titillating Spot Patrolman

the scholarship died with him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494644)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:41 PM
Author: Erotic twinkling indian lodge

Am I the only one that was a little disheartened to discover that the mountain in question was only Mount Cook and not Teewinot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494653)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle hell



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Diverse ultramarine center

He died while fumbling phone as he responded to partners email about latest turn of document.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494681)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: Hairraiser cumskin stage

"It's been 17 minutes and you haven't responded to my email. Are you dead?"

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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle hell



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:34 PM
Author: mind-boggling boiling water bbw

On balance, he was off balance

/soyface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494801)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle hell



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive



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Date: December 9th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Bateful Sickened Theater Stage Sex Offender



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Date: December 9th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Motley candlestick maker liquid oxygen



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Date: December 8th, 2025 6:29 PM
Author: 180 mustard field immigrant

12,218ft Lol you can drive to places higher than that. What a waste

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49494974)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 6:39 PM
Author: coral private investor

And this stupid bort says litigators don't have exit options

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495000)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: hairless trailer park hairy legs

amazing thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495294)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Flushed Business Firm

that twinge of envy every lawyer feels upon learning of the premature death of another lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495310)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: Clear angry theater macaca

He 100% posted here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495759)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 8:21 AM
Author: french house

evan39 hasnt been here in a few days hmmmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495992)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 1:59 AM
Author: Sadistic arousing meetinghouse double fault

"At approximately 11:50 p.m. Vialletet and Conover—who were climbing ahead of the other pair, as a rope team of two—fell from the ridge, according to a release published by the NZ Mountain Safety Council"

**11:50 PM***

What the fuck???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495835)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 2:32 AM
Author: Insanely Creepy Flushed Business Firm

it's not uncommon. starting at night means colder, firmer snow, preserves daylight for the descent, and can avoid afternoon storms

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495848)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

cr. love how xo n00bs try to step up on mountaineering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495923)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 7:06 AM
Author: cobalt galvanic mexican

And nothing of value was lost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495927)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 7:25 AM
Author: Diverse ultramarine center

Fags are incredibly promiscuous. Even though he was climbing in tandem at 12k feet in the middle of the night on a dangerous ascent, he couldn’t help himself and had to have raw homo rough anal with his guide at that very moment. Cost him his life.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495939)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

probably worth it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49496122)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 8:14 AM
Author: Marvelous crusty office

Doesnt look like it would be that difficult to climb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808003&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310864#49495980)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 9:34 AM
Author: Wonderful Submissive Preventive Strike Depressive

i went to the base of mt cook. i'm ok guyz

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Date: December 9th, 2025 2:57 PM
Author: Marvelous crusty office



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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:02 PM
Author: Confused roommate boltzmann

Cooked

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