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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: swashbuckling kitty cat Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49589879) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: twisted galvanic abode codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49604959) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: dun underhanded senate Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Charismatic Forum Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: dun underhanded senate (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Charismatic Forum They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: dun underhanded senate read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Bipolar tank school cafeteria Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: nighttime stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: marvelous university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Frum misunderstood state what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Flushed passionate rehab cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Stirring dead gas station dopamine I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Bipolar tank school cafeteria teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: hot gaping potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: deranged diverse new version marketing idea i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Bateful Chartreuse Jew Native Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: curious lodge really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Irate ratface It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Hideous sneaky criminal it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Irate ratface Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880",#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: curious lodge actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |