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LJL at how easy 1L must be these days with ChatGPT

1. Get outlines from 3 previous students for each class from...
Beta out-of-control brunch newt
  09/28/24
I was testing out o1 preview edition with LSAT type question...
Ruddy genital piercing address
  09/28/24
Exactly. Will be interesting to track law school admission n...
Beta out-of-control brunch newt
  09/28/24
They are using o1 to create data for training the next gener...
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  09/28/24
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  10/04/24
The LSAT should be the easiest thing for it to do.
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  10/05/24
I am somewhat sympathetic to this view but it’s alread...
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  10/05/24
AI has yet to teach us anything. It has made zero discoverie...
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  10/05/24
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  09/28/24
Not flame you can pretty much chatgpt any law question
Boyish cerise azn
  10/04/24
You will get absurdly wrong but very convincing answers. Mos...
mauve embarrassed to the bone pervert
  10/04/24
Lmao keep telling yourself that.
Boyish cerise azn
  10/04/24
I use them daily because even the shit answers are a good st...
mauve embarrassed to the bone pervert
  10/04/24
it's good for discovery requests as well.
Amethyst Fanboi Wrinkle
  10/04/24
CR. Lexis AI works to fetch cases but lol @ trusting it to a...
Glassy menage
  10/04/24
Right but it 100% points you in the right direction. I&rsquo...
Boyish cerise azn
  10/04/24
What’s so difficult about using boolean search terms?
Rose Adventurous Orchestra Pit
  10/05/24
It’s terrible if you ask it anything that requires jud...
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  10/04/24
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  10/04/24
Works OK, but IME it is not very good at providing the decep...
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  10/05/24
I use Lexis AI (their version of GPT) to vet all my leads wi...
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What should lawyers do about ChatGPT? I use it now for firs...
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Date: September 28th, 2024 7:15 PM
Author: Beta out-of-control brunch newt

1. Get outlines from 3 previous students for each class from last year.

2. Tell chatgpt to create a master outline.

3. Read each outline once per week. Ask chatgpt to help make analogies for legal issues with shit you like (e.g. South Park, Star Wars, etc.) and mnemonic devices to help you memorize every outline. As it gets closer to exams, tell chatgpt to create a "leansheets" style outline for each class.

4. Quiz yourself on it with chatgpt voice.

All this can be done for the bar exam too lmao. Throw in a bunch of old exam questions and ask chatgpt to create new questions in the same style.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48141356)



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Date: September 28th, 2024 7:21 PM
Author: Ruddy genital piercing address

I was testing out o1 preview edition with LSAT type questions and it got every one right. I understand there is a difference between the LSAT and being a lawyer, but people starting out now should not feel comfortable with the idea they will have a long career. Language models were babbling like idiots a few years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48141371)



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Date: September 28th, 2024 7:27 PM
Author: Beta out-of-control brunch newt

Exactly. Will be interesting to track law school admission numbers over the next few years. I have a feeling it will plummet significantly.

o1 preview is just today. What will Chatgpt 6 or whatever look like 3 years from now. The law student starting today is royally fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48141380)



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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: Ruddy genital piercing address

They are using o1 to create data for training the next generation of models. So now they can generate as much high quality of reasoning data as they want and then use it to train GPT-5 or 6, which can then be used for more synthetic data creation. Billions and billions of reasoning traces to learn from. The models by 2030 will be completely nuts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48141492)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 9:24 AM
Author: black queen of the night area



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Date: October 5th, 2024 4:49 PM
Author: Stirring frum digit ratio internal respiration

The LSAT should be the easiest thing for it to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48166996)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:07 PM
Author: Ruddy genital piercing address

I am somewhat sympathetic to this view but it’s already scoring 175ish. So well above median performance. There’s also a clear path for model improvement to tackle more complex domains. I see little reason to believe other skills are permanently out of reach of models trained more extensively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48167043)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 6:55 PM
Author: Stirring frum digit ratio internal respiration

AI has yet to teach us anything. It has made zero discoveries. I'm not impressed with how these LLMs operate under the hood, to the extent I understand them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48167339)



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Date: September 28th, 2024 7:33 PM
Author: salmon site international law enforcement agency



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Date: October 4th, 2024 6:58 AM
Author: Boyish cerise azn

Not flame you can pretty much chatgpt any law question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48161948)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:10 AM
Author: mauve embarrassed to the bone pervert

You will get absurdly wrong but very convincing answers. Most of the time the real answer is "there is no case law exactly on point but...." The Charbots can't handle that and will literally invent law in an attempt to give you a definitive answer which makes them dangerous. They misread cases for the sake of definitivnous.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48161957)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:18 AM
Author: Boyish cerise azn

Lmao keep telling yourself that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48161963)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:21 AM
Author: mauve embarrassed to the bone pervert

I use them daily because even the shit answers are a good starting point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48161967)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 9:06 AM
Author: Amethyst Fanboi Wrinkle

it's good for discovery requests as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48162145)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:21 AM
Author: Glassy menage

CR. Lexis AI works to fetch cases but lol @ trusting it to actually do anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48161970)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 8:12 AM
Author: Boyish cerise azn

Right but it 100% points you in the right direction. I’m a shitty researcher and it helps give me cases as a starting point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48162050)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: Rose Adventurous Orchestra Pit

What’s so difficult about using boolean search terms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48167032)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 8:10 AM
Author: Sick idea he suggested filthpig

It’s terrible if you ask it anything that requires judgment. Even simple questions like “is this provision market?” when it’s obviously off market come back terribly wrong. Then if you question it it might say the opposite eventually. It seems to just tell you what it thinks you want to hear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48162046)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 8:46 AM
Author: concupiscible citrine mediation

Wow that sounds really different from what a human lawyer does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48162099)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 9:18 AM
Author: Vibrant quadroon forum



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Date: October 5th, 2024 2:57 PM
Author: Ruddy genital piercing address



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:48 PM
Author: buff insane locus pisswyrm



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:51 PM
Author: charismatic lemon pit



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:54 PM
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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:59 PM
Author: exhilarant unhinged church building



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:59 PM
Author: Pea-brained soul-stirring box office



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Date: October 5th, 2024 4:07 PM
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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: Offensive Stage Round Eye



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:08 PM
Author: know-it-all background story



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: hideous razzle hell



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Date: October 5th, 2024 5:59 PM
Author: lascivious set feces



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Date: October 5th, 2024 4:07 PM
Author: copper supple locale



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:00 AM
Author: Boyish cerise azn

How do we take advantage of this for our deli stocks? (Delicious stocks)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48161949)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 7:29 AM
Author: cobalt vigorous affirmative action

I do this for my fiancee using her pharmacy school letters to generate multiple choice questions to prep for exams

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48161980)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:59 PM
Author: Pea-brained soul-stirring box office

Works OK, but IME it is not very good at providing the deceptively incorrect bait-answers used to truly test mastery. TBF I didn't experiment much with different prompts to make that better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48166873)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:00 PM
Author: copper supple locale

I use Lexis AI (their version of GPT) to vet all my leads with weird fact patterns under CA law. I literally just ask "does X have an injury claim?"

Whatever you guys are talking about replacing lawyers already exists lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48166770)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:38 PM
Author: cracking carmine codepig new version

What should lawyers do about ChatGPT? I use it now for first drafts of demand letters and things like that. How to protect income as super advanced versions roll out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48166829)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 3:50 PM
Author: motley chest-beating lay

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602898&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310880#48166851)



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Date: October 5th, 2024 4:09 PM
Author: Bearded 180 Field

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