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Ever hired someone through a legal headhunter?
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:33 PM Author: When I grow up I want to be a pumo I've been looking for another associate and a headhunter has sent me a candidate that might work out (after sending me several that would absolutely not work out). I may make an offer, but the headhunter wants a huge fee. Either a one time payment of 25% of the employee's salary, or the employee can be an employee of the headhunter for a year and I can pay the headhunter, at about a 75% markup.
The headhunter is providing an important service here, and I probably never would have met this candidate otherwise. But that is steep. Any tricks for paying less? |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:40 PM Author: chill exurb dad That’s not a huge fee - That is standard for an associate. If they have their own firm you don’t lose anything by trying to negotiate. For reference, C level executive recruiters charge a full third of all in compensation and typically get 2/3 of that guaranteed in the form of a retainer regardless of the search outcome. For legal recruiters who are working on contingency - recruiting associates no less - 25% is a reasonable fee but ask for 15 and maybe you land on 20. It’s well worth it if the person they found is truly good. Make sure they have a guarantee period of at least a year. That is if that person leaves on their own within a year they must find their replacement for no additional cost. |
Date: September 26th, 2024 9:36 PM Author: son daddy, cum on my chest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135918) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:37 PM Author: son that said, i think 25% is par for the course (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135920) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:38 PM Author: When I grow up I want to be a pumo That's crazy. What happens if a firm drops 50 or 100k on a new hire, and then he doesn't work out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135924) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:39 PM Author: Karlstack (Retired) You’re supposed to negotiate that you can clawback the fee after like 6 months or even a year if the employee leaves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135929) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:40 PM Author: When I grow up I want to be a pumo What about spreading that fee over six months or a year? Do they typically accept that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135938) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:44 PM Author: chill exurb dad Depends on size of recruiting firm. Legal recruiting is dominated by small boutiques and solo recruiters so it doesn’t hurt to ask. If they are a large firm like Major Lindsay or Korn Ferry - no chance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135950) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:43 PM Author: chill exurb dad No. Literally no firm does this. The fee is non refundable. The insurance policy is that they will find a replacement if the person leaves on their own accord or gets terminated for cause. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135943) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:43 PM Author: Karlstack (Retired) Yeah that’s what I meant. This is not legal advice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135948) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:39 PM Author: npb I’ll work for you instead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135927) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:42 PM Author: Candy Ride We hired this weird autistic guy with a lisp through a headhunter, but he does good work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135940) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:43 PM Author: son you hired spaceporn? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135945) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 10:05 PM Author: Candy Ride Spaceporn is more partner material than this guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48136062) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:13 PM Author: zim so he’s asian, got it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48138677) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:44 PM Author: Self-serious Macbook Airplane Girl it seems like it would be less effort to just solicit resumes than to deal with legal recruiters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135952) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:45 PM Author: chill exurb dad (guy living in 2004) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135958) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:47 PM Author: Karlstack (Retired) Yeah lol this guy thinks everyone is a desperate Gen Xer or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135968) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:49 PM Author: Self-serious Macbook Airplane Girl k well you could literally look up biglaw associate profiles which are all over the internet and contact the person you want and ask if theyre interested in meeting for an interview. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48135978) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:27 PM Author: chill exurb dad lol try that and tell me what your success rate is like. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48136284) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 7:32 PM Author: Self-serious Macbook Airplane Girl you can literally eyeball their phenotypes and figure out what you want. no need to speak in dogwhistles or do too many interviews lmao. if youre a dumb boomer looking for daddy dotter office time with some blonde bitch then go with that. if you want a dude to do actual work go with that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48138915) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 10:06 PM Author: fex i only use illegal headhunters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48136063) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 10:17 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface 1. Make sure it only ties to base. 2. Fee only due upon successful completion of all prescreening requirements and the first day of work. 3. Minimum 6 month guarantee, with no room for extra payments if you need to replace a bad hire with someone more expensive. |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:58 PM Author: ....:::..:....:::..:...;;;..;...:.:: Headhunters are basically a necessity these days. Most have like a 3 month guarantee of some kind.
I was super resistant to using one and applied using all methods others suggested in this threat to avoid using a head hunter and the quality of candidates across the board was essentially garbage.
Even then I used a cheaper head hunter and he supplied garbage as well. I finally got a recommendation for a headhunter from someone I trust who had hired several people through her. She was the most expensive by a decent amount (30%) with a 3 month guarantee, but she delivered. Candidate had great work experience, fit in well with the firm, was requesting a reasonable starting salary with a percentage (we're plaintiff's side).
Wouldn't hesitate to use her again even though it was painful paying her the 30% up front upon hiring the guy. |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:00 PM Author: iaf How much did you tip? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48138633) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 7:29 PM Author: ....:::..:....:::..:...;;;..;...:.:: the standard minimum of 50% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48138901) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 7:30 PM Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard why not recruit from here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602017&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893",#48138904) |