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Wife quit full time work (CSLG)

She went part time a few months ago and decided it wasn't wo...
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  11/24/23
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Slippery state
  11/24/23
Damn congrats on finally being able to quit any time and liv...
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  11/24/23
I actually still like my job. So I just increased how much I...
Opaque house-broken corner pervert
  11/24/23
Rate my black Friday. Told wife I needed to work. Went t...
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  11/24/23
seek Christ
Exciting Kitchen
  11/24/23
Sounds shitty tbh. You should do that shit with your wife. M...
Opaque house-broken corner pervert
  11/24/23
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Slippery state
  11/24/23
Would never expose my wife to anything approaching depravity...
brilliant supple idea he suggested
  11/25/23
aren't you 40? how is that "young"? you make it...
Pontificating Home
  11/24/23
I did that too. Ive been to over 40 countries in the last 20...
Opaque house-broken corner pervert
  11/24/23
Your life is 180 but you didn’t do any of this “...
Magenta Motley Stead Preventive Strike
  11/24/23
40 is literally nothing in 2023 what the hell you fucking ha...
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Ignore this liar hater my grandfather started his life at 50...
Cream jet-lagged feces
  11/24/23
It is young many have barely started..this is insane quit be...
Cream jet-lagged feces
  11/24/23
40 is young as fuck..I don't have any family or kids it's al...
Cream jet-lagged feces
  11/24/23
180, brother. You’re an all around 180 person. 180 hus...
Navy orchestra pit
  11/24/23
Love it but watch out. In 3-5 she’ll need “other...
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  11/24/23
I make her come like 8x per week, brother. Women only cheat ...
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  11/25/23
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  03/18/26
180, you've earned it brother. You work hard af and are gene...
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  11/24/23
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You ever think about working with her? My wife and I practi...
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  11/24/23
They work together on runaways, backpage escorts, etc
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While you were gone RSF logged into his pumo several times t...
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You seem unhappy with this. Your wife will never work a day ...
dark cruise ship
  11/25/23
tbf if things work out the way CSLG describes she is providi...
Racy sandwich
  11/25/23
This is a bad take, brother. I'm happy about it. In fact, I ...
Opaque house-broken corner pervert
  11/25/23
Brother, she's a type A go getter. I hope she doesn't get bo...
dark cruise ship
  11/27/23
Congrats. I've always believed that stay at home wife is the...
ivory jap multi-billionaire
  11/25/23
It’s mean to your kids she did that at all and it&rsqu...
aromatic rigor
  11/25/23
My kids are super happy, brother. We just did a 4 day cruise...
Opaque house-broken corner pervert
  11/25/23
Kenny definitely seems chill and relaxed
Black brunch hominid
  11/25/23
Kenny is 180. We have hung out twice.
Navy orchestra pit
  11/25/23
your gross tatted up binary zero wife then should feel even ...
aromatic rigor
  11/27/23
"Dad, we like it when it's just the family and not thos...
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  11/27/23
Rsf, while not poasting itt (he has no family) appreciates y...
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  01/02/24
180 congrats.
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  11/25/23
should be an opportunity to homeschool the kids
excitant center goal in life
  11/25/23
Nah, the kids have a lot of friends at their Catholic school...
Opaque house-broken corner pervert
  11/25/23
Doesn't RSF's shrew wife still work? LOL
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That's a bit different though since she has no kids to take ...
Opaque house-broken corner pervert
  11/25/23
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excitant center goal in life
  11/27/23
Bad decision for her considering your prenup.
blue deer antler patrolman
  11/27/23
update?
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  02/17/26
Is she still ugly and asian?
Pearl sound barrier
  11/27/23
You missed the recent pic. She's looking damn fine age adjus...
brilliant supple idea he suggested
  11/27/23
I saw the pic, she’s very ugly.
Pearl sound barrier
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why do people say his wife is ugly? he's posted pics. She's ...
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  11/27/23
Have you explicitly discussed her obligation to stay in grea...
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  12/13/23
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Date: November 24th, 2023 8:29 PM
Author: Opaque house-broken corner pervert

She went part time a few months ago and decided it wasn't worth even that. She was inhouse for almost 14 years and now she is just going to focus on taking care of the kids, making nice dinners for the family, keeping in great shape, and helping me manage our investments (properties, insurance, etc). It's 180 to be a provider for my family and make my kids and wife so happy. Life couldn't be better. It's even better knowing that I could quit any time and still live on almost 1 million/year without ever running out of money. Crazy to think I won life so young.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095199)



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Date: January 2nd, 2024 9:58 PM
Author: mind-boggling candlestick maker antidepressant drug

Christians make good societies for you people to take advantage of. Enjoy it brother!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47242502)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 8:30 PM
Author: Slippery state



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Date: November 24th, 2023 8:32 PM
Author: translucent insanely creepy whorehouse roommate

Damn congrats on finally being able to quit any time and live the rest of your life in luxury. Where are we at on this brother?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095209)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 8:33 PM
Author: Opaque house-broken corner pervert

I actually still like my job. So I just increased how much I spend on time savers and luxury travel. When I get bored if work ill stop. Doing drugs helped me get over my work anxiety so I feel like I can go for a while now. Drugs are 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095214)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 9:18 PM
Author: brilliant supple idea he suggested

Rate my black Friday.

Told wife I needed to work. Went to the park, took mushrooms and rode around on a bike share. When the shrooms started wearing off I watched Napoleon...still pretty high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095288)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 9:19 PM
Author: Exciting Kitchen

seek Christ

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Date: November 24th, 2023 9:23 PM
Author: Opaque house-broken corner pervert

Sounds shitty tbh. You should do that shit with your wife. My wife does shrooms or 2cb with me once a month and we talk, drink tea, and have sex. Its 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095301)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 9:31 PM
Author: Slippery state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095339)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 1:41 PM
Author: brilliant supple idea he suggested

Would never expose my wife to anything approaching depravity. She is a saint.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097255)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 9:22 PM
Author: Pontificating Home

aren't you 40? how is that "young"?

you make it seem like you won the lottery at 21 and get to travel around the world with no strings for 10+ years before settling down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095298)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 9:24 PM
Author: Opaque house-broken corner pervert

I did that too. Ive been to over 40 countries in the last 20 years. And I also have done bungee, skydiving, Im certified at scuba, bjj purple belt, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095306)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 9:34 PM
Author: Magenta Motley Stead Preventive Strike

Your life is 180 but you didn’t do any of this “young”. You are middle aged. Retire ASAP. You may think you like work but you will have hundred of things you like more than it if you stop working. You seem to have plenty of hobbies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095350)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 11:51 PM
Author: Cream jet-lagged feces

40 is literally nothing in 2023 what the hell you fucking haters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095746)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 12:08 AM
Author: translucent insanely creepy whorehouse roommate



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Date: November 25th, 2023 12:26 AM
Author: bronze submissive legend stag film

This is true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095839)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 12:27 AM
Author: Cream jet-lagged feces

You agree with me? Cool friend 😎 1800000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095843)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 12:43 AM
Author: bronze submissive legend stag film

💯

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095878)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 11:49 PM
Author: Cream jet-lagged feces

Ignore this liar hater my grandfather started his life at 50 and had a great life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095740)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 11:48 PM
Author: Cream jet-lagged feces

It is young many have barely started..this is insane quit being angry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095738)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 11:50 PM
Author: Cream jet-lagged feces

40 is young as fuck..I don't have any family or kids it's all individual people are in different places..all of this is flame..19 years is. Nothing that the hell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095742)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 9:24 PM
Author: Navy orchestra pit

180, brother. You’re an all around 180 person. 180 husband, father, provider, business person, investor, lawyer, friend, strongman, adventure seeker, traveller, connoisseur of fine things, etc.

So happy for you!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095305)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 10:54 PM
Author: exhilarant outnumbered location legal warrant

Love it but watch out. In 3-5 she’ll need “other” fulfillment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095591)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 2:27 PM
Author: Opaque house-broken corner pervert

I make her come like 8x per week, brother. Women only cheat when they aren't getting their emotion and physical needs met. I'm 180 at that part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097388)



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Date: March 18th, 2026 3:45 PM
Author: Black brunch hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#49753880)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 10:56 PM
Author: mauve ungodly temple

180, you've earned it brother. You work hard af and are generous with your time and resources.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095600)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 10:59 PM
Author: Navy orchestra pit

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095612)



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Date: January 2nd, 2024 9:52 PM
Author: cordovan vivacious haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47242480)



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Date: November 24th, 2023 11:54 PM
Author: bat shit crazy indian lodge

You ever think about working with her? My wife and I practice separately as a diversification-of-risk thing, but she'd be a huge asset to my firm and would make way more money (again, assuming everything continues to go as it's been going), although she says she'd hate working with/for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095758)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 1:42 PM
Author: Gaped brindle menage

They work together on runaways, backpage escorts, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097258)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 8:14 PM
Author: alcoholic nibblets lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47098975)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 12:09 AM
Author: gay cracking kitty toaster

While you were gone RSF logged into his pumo several times to talk shit about you and your family

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095811)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 2:43 PM
Author: cobalt mad-dog skullcap background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097435)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 12:10 AM
Author: dark cruise ship

You seem unhappy with this. Your wife will never work a day again. I hope you're ok with supporting a person who will produce 0% (zero) economic benefit for the rest of their life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47095818)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 1:46 PM
Author: Racy sandwich

tbf if things work out the way CSLG describes she is providing value thru being a better housewife and managing investments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097276)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 2:24 PM
Author: Opaque house-broken corner pervert

This is a bad take, brother. I'm happy about it. In fact, I was the one who told her she should quit now. I make 10 million/year and we have a NW of 25 million. We only spend like 200K/year or less. Her making 300K working in-house provides zero economic benefit anyways. Even if she made 1 million/year it wouldn't change our life in anyway. I'd rather her help me by taking over things that eat up my time like dealing with our 30 insurance policies, helping with restaurant accounting, making good dinners, volunteering at the kids school, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097381)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 10:50 AM
Author: dark cruise ship

Brother, she's a type A go getter. I hope she doesn't get bored, for your sake. You know how you like to play? Now she has all that extra time to explore that as well. Good luck!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104230)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 1:46 PM
Author: ivory jap multi-billionaire

Congrats. I've always believed that stay at home wife is the sine qua non of human well being and flourishing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097275)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 1:50 PM
Author: aromatic rigor

It’s mean to your kids she did that at all and it’s mean to them to have to be raised by tatted up freaks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097289)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 2:26 PM
Author: Opaque house-broken corner pervert

My kids are super happy, brother. We just did a 4 day cruise to Mexico with Chandler, Kenny, and some of my lawyers. The kids told us their favorite part was spending time with the family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097386)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 8:19 PM
Author: Black brunch hominid

Kenny definitely seems chill and relaxed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47098997)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 8:23 PM
Author: Navy orchestra pit

Kenny is 180. We have hung out twice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47099016)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 10:56 AM
Author: aromatic rigor

your gross tatted up binary zero wife then should feel even more guilty for neglecting them all these years in favor of her pointless "career".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104269)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:03 AM
Author: purple mental disorder

"Dad, we like it when it's just the family and not those creepy xo poasters"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104300)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:17 AM
Author: dark cruise ship

Rsf, while not poasting itt (he has no family) appreciates your work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104359)



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Date: January 2nd, 2024 9:53 PM
Author: cordovan vivacious haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47242482)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 2:25 PM
Author: brilliant supple idea he suggested

180 congrats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097384)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 2:26 PM
Author: excitant center goal in life

should be an opportunity to homeschool the kids



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47097387)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 8:13 PM
Author: Opaque house-broken corner pervert

Nah, the kids have a lot of friends at their Catholic school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47098971)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 8:20 PM
Author: cobalt mad-dog skullcap background story

Doesn't RSF's shrew wife still work? LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47099006)



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Date: November 25th, 2023 8:21 PM
Author: Opaque house-broken corner pervert

That's a bit different though since she has no kids to take care of yet. I'm sure once they adopt kids she will quit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47099009)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 10:52 AM
Author: excitant center goal in life

owning a sushi restaurant has taught you fine knife work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104247)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 10:55 AM
Author: blue deer antler patrolman

Bad decision for her considering your prenup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104257)



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Date: February 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: magical hyperventilating main people hall

update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#49676273)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 10:56 AM
Author: Pearl sound barrier

Is she still ugly and asian?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104264)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:08 AM
Author: brilliant supple idea he suggested

You missed the recent pic. She's looking damn fine age adjusted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104316)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:09 AM
Author: Pearl sound barrier

I saw the pic, she’s very ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104322)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:23 AM
Author: blue deer antler patrolman

why do people say his wife is ugly? he's posted pics. She's pretty and any of us here would gladly kiss her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104392)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:01 AM
Author: Silver Thriller Stage

Have you explicitly discussed her obligation to stay in great shape

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104287)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:09 AM
Author: Gaped brindle menage

She has a receding hairline and fucks hookers with her husband so they both have herpes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5449684&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310893#47104321)



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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:18 AM
Author: dark cruise ship

Did you at least pay for everyone's trip or did you force them to pay?

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Date: December 13th, 2023 10:17 AM
Author: Opaque house-broken corner pervert



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Date: January 2nd, 2024 9:56 PM
Author: Federal Internal Respiration

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Date: March 18th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: translucent insanely creepy whorehouse roommate

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