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Fun Talmud Hypo: Found $100 Bill On Shabbos; OK To Kick It Home? (Link)

Shabbos and Yom Tov #41 Found Money Rabbi Meir Orlian Wed...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
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Soul-stirring liquid oxygen shrine
  03/23/26
Why can't you just ask a shabbos goyim to pick it up for you...
Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range
  03/23/26
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Chartreuse legend
  03/23/26
Yes you fucking moron. The hypo does not mention asking a sh...
Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range
  03/23/26
poor rc? it literally says "non-Jew" which is a sh...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
a non-Jew is just another shabbos goyim? I thought shabbos g...
Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range
  03/23/26
i dont think jews are allowed to have a shabbos goy go so fa...
Soul-stirring liquid oxygen shrine
  03/23/26
no goyim are dumb enough to do that anymore, so now elevator...
Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range
  03/23/26
rofl didnt u live in mfh? any goy can be a shabbos goy. ...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
what about something like "hm, well, you could pick up ...
Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range
  03/23/26
perhaps too direct. might be better like this: "hm, ...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
...
Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range
  03/23/26
is there a difference based on the monetary amount? why is ...
Geriatric Cruise Ship
  03/23/26
cq. the answer ues the phrase "if you found a valuable ...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
why did jews invent all these retarded ass rules just to fig...
lime know-it-all space
  03/23/26
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Chartreuse legend
  03/23/26
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Geriatric Cruise Ship
  03/23/26
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embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
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Boyish den
  03/23/26
i dont even understand the last sentence. it seems to indica...
Soul-stirring liquid oxygen shrine
  03/23/26
it's talking about the western law equivalent of a claim of ...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
so you cna find a diamond ring (not a $100 bill) (and as lon...
Soul-stirring liquid oxygen shrine
  03/23/26
dental floss in the sky tp lol
Geriatric Cruise Ship
  03/23/26
depends on whether the diamond ring is considered mukzeh. ...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
now let's just be 100% honest here: if you or another kike s...
Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range
  03/23/26
there's always yom kippur to atone for our sins!
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
Maybe this log in glitch isn't so bad after all. I don't nee...
Carmine New Version Dysfunction
  03/23/26
i was hoping to poast it saturday night, and couldn't poast ...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
The real answer: Any Jew, through the power of choseness, ca...
Mewling Site
  03/23/26
see joshua 10:12-14 -- joshua's long day and the moon standi...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
jews and other orthodox types excel as lawyers because they ...
Boyish den
  03/23/26
cr, and goyim excel as beasts of burden because theyve spent...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
then why dont niggers do a better job of it?
Carmine New Version Dysfunction
  03/23/26
...
Chartreuse legend
  03/23/26
...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
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Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range
  03/23/26
talmud has a lot about agriculture and farming doesn't it? b...
Boyish den
  03/23/26
yes, but the talmud era was 200-500 ce, and we werent allowe...
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
what does that have to do with you going on the internet in ...
Boyish den
  03/23/26
This is hilarious. I wish I was Jewish.
Spectacular high-end background story
  03/23/26
I genuinely wish I would've had this sort of logical puzzle ...
Laughsome Home
  03/23/26
rules are meant to be broken
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
there are a lot of cultures that have the opposite value
Laughsome Home
  03/23/26
yep, look at obedient subservient orientals. pathetic.
embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king
  03/23/26
one weird trick
Laughsome Home
  03/23/26
goyim picking up hundred dollar bills and holding them up ov...
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 8:50 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

Shabbos and Yom Tov #41

Found Money

Rabbi Meir Orlian

Wed Mar 18 2026

Based on the writings of Rav Chaim Kohn, שליט''א

Based on the writings of Harav Chaim Kohn, shlita

Q

While taking a Shabbos walk, I encountered a $100 bill. Am I allowed to possess it?

There is an issue of muktzeh and — if no eruv

— an issue of carrying. Although Chazal provided certain leniencies regarding the prospective loss of one’s wallet, the leniencies are not applicable to money that is found, since it is not yours yet (O.C. 266:13).

Thus, you may not pick up the $100 bill, even if there is an eruv, because of muktzeh (Mishnah Berurah 266:38). However, according to many Acharonim, you can kick it aside with your foot to a secure place if there is an eruv (Shemiras Shabbos K’Hilchasah 22:36).

There is a dispute between the Acharonim as to whether you may tell a non-Jew to pick up the bill for you, despite its being muktzeh. However, while you may not tell him to carry it if there is no eruv, if he chooses to bring it to your house of his own accord, you do not have to stop him (Mishnah Ber-urah, ibid.).

Nonetheless, if you found a valuable item that is not muktzeh and there is an eruv, you may possess it and take it home. It is not considered a transac-tion, because there is no seller or giver. However, you should not raise it in a manner that blatantly indicates acquisition (Shemiras Shabbos K’Hilcha-sah 29:32[89]).

https://businesshalacha.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/business_weekly/item_946_en_BW_792.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49761664)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: Soul-stirring liquid oxygen shrine

180

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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:57 AM
Author: Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range

Why can't you just ask a shabbos goyim to pick it up for you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762305)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:59 AM
Author: Chartreuse legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762309)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:25 PM
Author: Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range

Yes you fucking moron. The hypo does not mention asking a shabbos goyim, just "someone"

Shabbos goyim are how you pricks trick God

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762436)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

poor rc? it literally says "non-Jew" which is a shabbos goy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762633)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:37 PM
Author: Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range

a non-Jew is just another shabbos goyim? I thought shabbos goyim were blessed by rabbis or something so that they're allowed to facilitate your trickery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762896)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: Soul-stirring liquid oxygen shrine

i dont think jews are allowed to have a shabbos goy go so far as to come into their apartment and cook for them, turn on lights etc.

but jews are allowed to stand there dumbly in an elevator until a goy pushes their floor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762909)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:41 PM
Author: Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range

no goyim are dumb enough to do that anymore, so now elevators in MFH just stop at every floor on Fridays and Saturdays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762916)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:46 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

rofl didnt u live in mfh?

any goy can be a shabbos goy.

generally, you cant ask a shabbos goy directly do so something. that's why the case says "if he chooses to bring it to your house of his own accord, you do not have to stop him."

you have to hint your shabbos goy "it'd be really nice to have that $100 bill after shabbos" or "no i dont want you to pick up that $100 bill for me, but you can bring it to my house for me to have after shabbos only if you really want to"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762935)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range

what about something like "hm, well, you could pick up that $100 bill and keep it for yourself, but if you really want that loan to get approved, then you will need to bring me the $100 bill after shabbos"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762939)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:54 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

perhaps too direct. might be better like this:

"hm, well, you could pick up that $100 bill and keep it for yourself, but too bad it's shabbos because otherwise i'd love to have that $100 myself to pay for pesach expenses. remember, you do want that loan approved, haha"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762966)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:59 AM
Author: Geriatric Cruise Ship

is there a difference based on the monetary amount? why is this hypo $100 and not $1 or even one penny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762310)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:22 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

cq. the answer ues the phrase "if you found a valuable item ..."

there is something in halacha about avoiding significant financial losses, but it's not clear how to apply this here... or whether a $5 or a $20 might be a valuable item.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762636)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:01 PM
Author: lime know-it-all space

why did jews invent all these retarded ass rules just to figure out loopholes? and why do you people still "follow" these rules in the modern era?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762313)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: Chartreuse legend



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:23 PM
Author: Geriatric Cruise Ship



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:22 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: Boyish den



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Soul-stirring liquid oxygen shrine

i dont even understand the last sentence. it seems to indicate you should not hold the pilfered goods high like a trophy but should instead cloak them in your black suits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762443)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

it's talking about the western law equivalent of a claim of right and taking formal ownership. remember the shit in 1L properly law about taking ownership and making a claim against the world? its kind of the same thing.

in jewish law, you acquire something through an action asserting ownership. but you can't take formal ownership on shabbos. so it's giving a loophole so you can kinda take custody of the item without really taking formal ownership.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762644)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:34 PM
Author: Soul-stirring liquid oxygen shrine

so you cna find a diamond ring (not a $100 bill) (and as long as there is dental floss in teh sky), take it home and then claim ownership over it at sunset?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762670)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:35 PM
Author: Geriatric Cruise Ship

dental floss in the sky tp lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762671)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

depends on whether the diamond ring is considered mukzeh.

mukzeh means something that has no shabbos purpose. you're not allowed to touch mukzeh, which is an item that has no shabbos purpose.

a $100 bill is mukzeh since it has no shabbos purpose.

a diamond ring that's wearable might not be mukzeh since women wear jewelry on shabbos.

but if you found a raw 5ct diamond, it's mukzeh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762730)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range

now let's just be 100% honest here: if you or another kike spots a raw 5ct diamond laying on the ground during shabbos, do you really expect us to believe you wouldn't bend over, pick it up, and hide it in your shtreimel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762910)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:42 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

there's always yom kippur to atone for our sins!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762921)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:42 PM
Author: Carmine New Version Dysfunction

Maybe this log in glitch isn't so bad after all. I don't need to be exposed to this stupid horseshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762919)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:43 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

i was hoping to poast it saturday night, and couldn't poast it until mid-morning monday. it's a shonda!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762922)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:44 PM
Author: Mewling Site

The real answer: Any Jew, through the power of choseness, can temporarily form a bubble of Friday around self, thus not violating the law of Saturday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762928)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

see joshua 10:12-14 -- joshua's long day and the moon standing still for 24 hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762946)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:49 PM
Author: Boyish den

jews and other orthodox types excel as lawyers because they have spent centuries creating legal loopholes to trick their own god.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762944)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

cr, and goyim excel as beasts of burden because theyve spent centuries toiling the land

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762949)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Carmine New Version Dysfunction

then why dont niggers do a better job of it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49762994)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:01 PM
Author: Chartreuse legend



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Brilliant Abusive Antidepressant Drug Range



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:02 PM
Author: Boyish den

talmud has a lot about agriculture and farming doesn't it? but i suppose disregarding that because you consider laboring for your own sustenance beneath you is exactly the type of creating loopholes for your own religion that we're talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49763008)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

yes, but the talmud era was 200-500 ce, and we werent allowed to own land in europe in much more recent times,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49763041)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: Boyish den

what does that have to do with you going on the internet in 2026 to shit on goys for farming?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49763046)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 7:10 PM
Author: Spectacular high-end background story

This is hilarious. I wish I was Jewish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49763586)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: Laughsome Home

I genuinely wish I would've had this sort of logical puzzle training as a child learning about the world, to push back against dumbass rules

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49763927)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:19 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

rules are meant to be broken

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49763936)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:24 PM
Author: Laughsome Home

there are a lot of cultures that have the opposite value

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49763943)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone philosopher-king

yep, look at obedient subservient orientals. pathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49763956)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:31 PM
Author: Laughsome Home

one weird trick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49763958)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:26 PM
Author: Honey-headed Contagious Box Office Crotch

goyim picking up hundred dollar bills and holding them up over their head like Link finding a huge rupee, SMDH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#49763948)