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Everybody Loves Raymond was intentional demoralization campaign against America

and particularly american men. It probably explains the curr...
bat shit crazy area
  08/13/26
Ray Romano is a Boomer.
cracking keepsake machete
  08/13/26
It's a fucking paradise compared to the way the average fami...
Stimulating Crystalline Theater Stage
  08/13/26
insipidly whining and begging every single week, henpecked b...
bat shit crazy area
  08/13/26
Did they ever address where Ray's NYPD cop brother was on 9/...
Stimulating Crystalline Theater Stage
  08/13/26
ljl I didn't even realize it was still on the air on 9/11. ...
bat shit crazy area
  08/13/26
he called out sick on 9/11 really make u think
Stimulating Crystalline Theater Stage
  08/14/26
!
bat shit crazy area
  08/14/26
Ray Romano is like 6’2 iirc
idiotic international law enforcement agency crackhouse
  08/14/26
mfcr. most jewish show ever even though i think everyone was...
180 carmine institution
  08/13/26
Italian, actually
idiotic international law enforcement agency crackhouse
  08/14/26
Incredible poast
Galvanic cheese-eating fat ankles
  08/14/26
Steelman: pro. The show presents an unusually bleak model of...
bat shit crazy area
  08/14/26
holy shit I love LLMs now
bat shit crazy area
  08/14/26


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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:32 PM
Author: bat shit crazy area

and particularly american men. It probably explains the current state of Gen X more than any other cultural artifact

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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:43 PM
Author: cracking keepsake machete

Ray Romano is a Boomer.

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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:36 PM
Author: Stimulating Crystalline Theater Stage

It's a fucking paradise compared to the way the average family has been depicted in media since the woke era.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892762&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#50065704)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:40 PM
Author: bat shit crazy area

insipidly whining and begging every single week, henpecked by mom wife dad. dressed like a slob. "sportswriter."

even the Tall one was depicted as a loser. no one escaped

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892762&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#50065718)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: Stimulating Crystalline Theater Stage

Did they ever address where Ray's NYPD cop brother was on 9/11?

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Date: August 13th, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: bat shit crazy area

ljl I didn't even realize it was still on the air on 9/11. I can't believe that shit ran through 2005

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892762&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#50065881)



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Date: August 14th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: Stimulating Crystalline Theater Stage

he called out sick on 9/11

really make u think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892762&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#50067391)



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Date: August 14th, 2026 9:36 AM
Author: bat shit crazy area

!

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Date: August 14th, 2026 10:21 AM
Author: idiotic international law enforcement agency crackhouse

Ray Romano is like 6’2 iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892762&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#50067538)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:42 PM
Author: 180 carmine institution

mfcr. most jewish show ever even though i think everyone was somehow a white gentile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892762&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#50065727)



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Date: August 14th, 2026 10:21 AM
Author: idiotic international law enforcement agency crackhouse

Italian, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892762&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#50067539)



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Date: August 14th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Galvanic cheese-eating fat ankles

Incredible poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892762&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#50067543)



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Date: August 14th, 2026 12:23 PM
Author: bat shit crazy area

Steelman: pro. The show presents an unusually bleak model of ordinary American marriage while packaging it as harmless domestic comedy. Raymond is weak, deceitful, sexually needy, cowardly around his mother, incompetent at household tasks, and constantly maneuvering to avoid responsibility. Robert is emotionally damaged, resentful, and pathetic. Frank is crude, selfish, and domineering. There is essentially no attractive model of adult masculinity among the principal men. The recurring joke is not merely that these particular men have faults; male inadequacy itself is often the comic premise.

At the same time, the structure frequently places Debra in the position of the sane adult dealing with an overgrown child. Ray lies because telling his wife the truth is frightening; he schemes to obtain sex; he wants praise for elementary parenting; he cannot effectively establish boundaries with his parents. This resembles the later television archetype of the incompetent husband and exasperated wife, but Raymond was unusually influential because its marriage was supposed to be recognizable rather than cartoonish. Homer Simpson's incompetence is absurd. Ray Barone's is presented as suburban normality.

That matters because comedy teaches expectations through repetition. A program watched by tens of millions of people repeatedly associates marriage with sexual frustration, nagging, concealment, contempt, competition and emasculation. Husband and wife rarely seem to admire one another. The husband learns to survive marriage through appeasement and deception; the wife expects disappointment. The extended family makes matters worse: Ray remains psychologically subordinate to his mother, while his father offers a grotesque version of masculine authority. The viewer is given a world in which mature male competence scarcely exists.

A particularly strong version of the argument would say the demoralization is achieved precisely by making the situation funny and familiar. The audience is induced to recognize humiliation as ordinary: "That's marriage"; "that's husbands"; "that's what men are like." The show therefore does not need to preach anything explicitly. It normalizes low expectations of men and mutual contempt between the sexes.

The intentionality argument would point to the extraordinary consistency of the pattern. Writers deliberately decide who wins arguments, which characteristics receive ridicule, which marital frustrations recur, and what kind of man the protagonist will be. Ray Romano and Phil Rosenthal were not accidentally producing hundreds of stories about a husband whose cowardice and incompetence generate the plot. One could therefore use "campaign" somewhat rhetorically: not necessarily a centrally directed political operation, but a sustained cultural product deliberately constructing an emasculated version of the American husband and selling it back to Americans as their own reflection.

The strongest broader cultural case would connect Raymond to a larger late-20th-century movement in advertising and sitcoms: the foolish husband, competent wife, intrusive mother, sex-starved man, and domestic male who cannot be trusted with children or appliances. If one believes mass entertainment affects the repertoire of roles people regard as normal, Raymond becomes a particularly effective transmitter of that archetype because the Barones are recognizably middle-class, Catholic, suburban, intact-family Americans rather than an obviously dysfunctional fringe family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892762&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#50067749)



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Date: August 14th, 2026 12:23 PM
Author: bat shit crazy area

holy shit I love LLMs now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892762&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310894#50067751)