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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: sickened tank Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: Spectacular garrison athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49589879) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49604959) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Lascivious khaki boistinker public bath Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Passionate range Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Lascivious khaki boistinker public bath (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Passionate range They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Lascivious khaki boistinker public bath read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Trip fishy feces church building Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Hot resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Dull temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: ocher forum becky what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Massive hospital cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: beady-eyed indigo sex offender institution I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Trip fishy feces church building teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Citrine Cruise Ship Electric Furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: excitant tripping toaster i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Wine Abode Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: fiercely-loyal cumskin really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Chocolate autistic church telephone It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Razzle Soggy Stead Sound Barrier it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Chocolate autistic church telephone Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: fiercely-loyal cumskin actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |