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Question about European feudalism.
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Self-absorbed Shrine Therapy Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: greedy business firm sandwich just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: greedy business firm sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49589879) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49604959) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Bateful Fluffy Heaven Black Woman Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Fishy confused gay wizard Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Bateful Fluffy Heaven Black Woman (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Fishy confused gay wizard They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Bateful Fluffy Heaven Black Woman read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: concupiscible stubborn reading party Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle clear electric furnace hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Buck-toothed Avocado Digit Ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: flatulent piazza what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: red station cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: mind-boggling shimmering elastic band I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: concupiscible stubborn reading party teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Heady nudist tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Boyish Startling Jap i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Rusted state Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Vermilion whorehouse really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Gold hunting ground half-breed It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: judgmental windowlicker multi-billionaire it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Gold hunting ground half-breed Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Vermilion whorehouse actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |