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HEGEMON: How long until Kiev is done here?
| Seedy contagious associate | 03/20/22 |
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| Seedy contagious associate | 07/15/22 |
| Bipolar mint black woman | 03/20/22 |
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| cruel-hearted striped hyena hunting ground | 03/20/22 |
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| Seedy contagious associate | 03/22/22 |
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| white medicated electric furnace circlehead | 05/02/22 |
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| lascivious queen of the night hissy fit | 07/09/22 |
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| lascivious queen of the night hissy fit | 07/06/22 |
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| Seedy contagious associate | 08/01/22 |
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| Dashing Corner | 09/10/22 |
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| lascivious queen of the night hissy fit | 12/13/22 |
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Poast new message in this thread
Date: March 20th, 2022 4:39 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185403) |
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Date: July 1st, 2022 12:29 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate 19 days until the fall of Kiev, according to Hegemon and his butt buddy TBF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44778742) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2022 12:46 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44783937) |
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Date: July 20th, 2022 3:58 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate welp, the Big Day has arrived. Kiev has fallen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44883501) |
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Date: July 20th, 2022 3:58 PM Author: Dashing Corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44883506) |
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Date: September 11th, 2022 2:38 AM Author: Dashing Corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45152590) |
Date: March 20th, 2022 4:46 PM Author: racy base dragon Hegemon has no combat experience. Abdul the goat herder has more knowledge of war, battle, combat tactics, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185455) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 4:47 PM Author: fiercely-loyal slippery useless brakes He’s a Ranger officer irl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185460) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 4:48 PM Author: racy base dragon lol no he's not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185466) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 4:47 PM Author: Deep cracking institution sound barrier To be fair,
(Pumo who kinda know what he's talking about a little in matters of war and strategy, OK hoss?) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2022 12:46 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate Date: March 20th, 2022 4:47 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retired)
To be fair, (Pumo who kinda know what he's talking about a little in matters of war and strategy, OK hoss?)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 5:28 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45279757) |
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Date: December 25th, 2022 4:16 PM Author: purple pit selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45691390) |
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Date: March 5th, 2026 9:12 PM Author: Dull ungodly point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49719633) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 4:51 PM Author: Bearded cordovan genital piercing Abdul the goat herder is one with the surrounding nature, knows that some bird squeaked "I see strangers". Hegemon is one with 4chan memes, knows that "Putin is are savior" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185487) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 5:52 PM Author: Avocado quadroon cuckoldry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185849) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 4:52 PM Author: Vermilion Halford Fat Ankles He seems to know much more than you do, retarded pumo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185496) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 5:03 PM Author: Bearded cordovan genital piercing Yes, his is very informed position on NATO's aggression against Russia, while Russian "elites" spend their money and live in NATO countries and treat the actual Russian lives (with the current life expectancy of 54) as indentured surfs. That's why Ukrainians are meeting their liberators with flowers everywhere, because they want to join their Russian brothers in this arrangement, and not be exploited by NATO NAZI Western Capitalism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185548) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 5:11 PM Author: Bipolar mint black woman you've been raped repeatedly in that thread, and now you drag your bleeding ass here to be sodomized again? very well.
Your facile fucking emotional position is betrayed by your language of "liberators" and rhetoric about self determination. That's not how geopolitics works, and trying to insert Western political norms into this discussion about differing international interests is fucking laughable.
Yes, oligarchs oligarch. What the fuck is your point here? That Putin doesn't have an interest in keeping NATO off his border? That's asinine; we'd be exactly as unhappy (or moreso) about a Russian or Chinese base in Mexico or Canada, and this longstanding position is known as the Monroe Doctrine and in fact extends to the entire Western Hemisphere. And you don't get why he doesn't want NATO members on his border? You historically illiterate fuck lmao. |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 5:41 PM Author: Bearded cordovan genital piercing Thank you for sharing your homoerotic phantasies. Very Obeezy-like performance from you here. You seem to be arguing that "it is what it is" by rephrasing it into "it's how real geopolitics work".
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Date: March 20th, 2022 5:59 PM Author: Deep cracking institution sound barrier To be fair,
"I think I can fly if I flap my arms a certain way!"
"Uh, no. Gravity exists. It is what it is."
"Oh look at Mr. 'It is what it is'! So smart!" |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 6:02 PM Author: Bearded cordovan genital piercing You've been flying off the handle for a while, flapping or not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185899) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 6:02 PM Author: Deep cracking institution sound barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185905) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 8:47 PM Author: mischievous buff stag film Correct. And the juvenile level of conversation coming out of the left and neocon right on this topic is hilarious given the "adult in the room" argument to put Biden in charge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44186840) |
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Date: March 21st, 2022 9:47 AM Author: Lilac macaca roast beef this doesn't make any sense is just very feminine histrionics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44189059) |
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Date: April 12th, 2022 8:31 PM Author: Disrespectful personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44327486) |
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Date: April 13th, 2022 9:05 AM Author: Brilliant internal respiration people who are hurt OP is Pensive. He talks about Putin nonstop because he really wanted Hillary to win (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44329746) |
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Date: July 15th, 2022 5:06 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate i'm not pensive you dumb schizophrenic apemo retard.
go make another thread about how 'putin won't see july' |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 5:03 PM Author: Bipolar mint black woman lol
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Date: March 20th, 2022 8:43 PM Author: racy base dragon Abdul the Goat Herder would literally end your life with ease. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44186822) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 8:51 PM Author: Bipolar mint black woman lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44186854) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 5:04 PM Author: Bipolar mint black woman http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063383&forum_id=2#44185540 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44185554) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 8:49 PM Author: cruel-hearted striped hyena hunting ground Like your optimistic stance on this but I'm not so optimistic. Very limited progress in the past week , none at all around Kiev. And xoxols have unlimited supply of conscripts, now theyll also get those suicide drones. Also I dont see Kiev going under seige before Odessa. And to even start on Odessa need to destroy nikolaev first. In any case there will be no reinforcements to Kiev until nikolaev and kharkov are secured which is taking too long. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44186848) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 8:52 PM Author: Bipolar mint black woman I think Kharkiv falls fast, but you're right that they're holding things up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44186859) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 8:56 PM Author: cruel-hearted striped hyena hunting ground Kharkov isnt even fully surrounded yet. It was partially surrounded same as now since the 1st few days of war. They might only try to fully surround it after finishing mariupol. And any seige there would be much tougher because it is at least 5x bigger than mariupol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44186872) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 8:59 PM Author: Bipolar mint black woman I read today Mariupol is done within a day (though I'm skeptical until it happens), but I thought they were close to fully surrounding Kharkiv. CR that a siege there will take longer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44186896) |
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Date: March 20th, 2022 9:13 PM Author: cruel-hearted striped hyena hunting ground They were equally close to surrounding kharkov 2 weeks ago. Kharkov still has food and electricity and water. In mariupol that was shut off over 2 weeks ago. You can still take a train from kharkov to Kiev and carry a stinger in the train. I think mariupol will be cleansed by the end of the week, but it is no longer a player. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44186969) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2022 9:50 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44200395) |
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Date: March 30th, 2022 7:19 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate took a bit longer, still hasn't been secured & occupied 10 days later, but that makes the comments you're responding to even more lulzy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44248696) |
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Date: March 31st, 2022 10:29 PM Author: Bipolar mint black woman Cr, I was wrong about the siege timelines.
I still think 4 months isn't too far off for Kiev. |
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Date: March 31st, 2022 10:31 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate i really love it. willing to make a prediction myself: kiev will never be occupied, and it will never be encircled. bets are off if russia orders a general mobilization. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44256422) |
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Date: March 31st, 2022 10:33 PM Author: Bipolar mint black woman That seems fairly optimistic to me, unless Ukraine accepts Russian terms before then. We'll see though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44256438) |
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Date: March 31st, 2022 10:38 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate Date: March 31st, 2022 10:33 PM Author: Ramzan Kadyrov (Hegemon)
That seems fairly optimistic to me, unless Ukraine accepts Russian terms before then. We'll see though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2#44256438)
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i really love it. willing to make a prediction myself: kiev will never be occupied, and it will never be encircled. bets are off if russia orders a general mobilization.
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Date: March 31st, 2022 10:40 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate BTW you also said 11 days ago that "Russia would soon take Kharkiv."
What timeline are you predicting for the fall of the city? Or at least for it encirclement? |
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Date: April 7th, 2022 3:38 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate Date: March 20th, 2022 8:52 PM Author: Hegemon
I think Kharkiv falls fast, but you're right that they're holding things up.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2#44186859) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2022 5:15 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44441660) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2022 9:51 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate four months? hmm, that doesn't sound like "Russia is winning badly" as you claimed. sounds, at best, like they're grinding out a win against a much smaller foe. either way, i still think this is stupidly optimistic. i'm willing to go on record that kiev will *not* fall in four months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44200412) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2022 10:14 PM Author: mischievous buff stag film Four months sounds like a reasonable bet. How long do you think it will take? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44200579) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2022 10:24 PM Author: tripping depressive Hegemon is a Tier One warfighter so he knows a little bit about combat, lol. In fact war is very slow if you don't have overwhelming air support in every engagement and you aren't fighting illiterate muslims. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44200642) |
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Date: April 12th, 2022 8:09 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate lol go suck his dick you fag
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Date: April 13th, 2022 9:01 AM Author: jet bonkers wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44329734) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2022 5:14 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44441656) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2022 5:21 PM Author: Dashing Corner nice bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44441708) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2022 5:26 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate By March 20 I was obvious to anyone who's not an imbecile that Russia's Kiev offensive had seriously stalled and was being rolled back. But Russia simps were still spewing bullshit completely disconnected from reality and attacking people saying Russia's offensive had stalled. LOL @ TBF and Hegemon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44441724) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2022 5:27 PM Author: white medicated electric furnace circlehead Claire has had a really tough few months, even by her standards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44441734) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2022 5:55 PM Author: Dashing Corner this Russia war is outing some people are irrational and immoral retards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44441892) |
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Date: July 9th, 2022 2:32 PM Author: lascivious queen of the night hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44821895) |
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Date: May 7th, 2022 9:28 AM Author: Seedy contagious associate lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44469122) |
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Date: May 7th, 2022 9:34 AM Author: racy base dragon lol at US military personnel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44469156) |
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Date: May 7th, 2022 9:35 AM Author: tripping depressive *Tier One Warfighter with Grade 3 TBI from barracks hazing* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44469161) |
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Date: July 1st, 2022 6:16 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44780732) |
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Date: July 6th, 2022 5:18 PM Author: lascivious queen of the night hissy fit yikes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44805615) |
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Date: July 8th, 2022 7:58 PM Author: thriller olive alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44818506) |
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Date: July 8th, 2022 7:59 PM Author: hyperventilating trip parlor lettuce wait two weeks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44818514) |
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Date: July 13th, 2022 1:21 AM Author: lascivious queen of the night hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44841741) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2022 10:00 PM Author: lascivious queen of the night hissy fit Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44902770) |
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Date: August 1st, 2022 3:13 PM Author: Seedy contagious associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#44947817) |
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Date: September 6th, 2022 9:44 AM Author: Seedy contagious associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45125606) |
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Date: September 10th, 2022 8:50 AM Author: Seedy contagious associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45147390) |
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Date: September 10th, 2022 8:52 AM Author: Dashing Corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45147400) |
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Date: September 11th, 2022 2:34 AM Author: lascivious queen of the night hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45152581) |
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Date: September 11th, 2022 2:36 AM Author: maize domesticated filthpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45152585) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2022 11:27 AM Author: umber lodge volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45429843) |
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Date: December 13th, 2022 2:06 PM Author: lascivious queen of the night hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45627452) |
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Date: December 13th, 2022 2:07 PM Author: Vermilion Halford Fat Ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45627457) |
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Date: December 13th, 2022 2:20 PM Author: tripping depressive Hey, thanks for putting visibility on this. We need solid takes from people 'connected' and 'in-the-know'. Glad that Hegemon, a national security expert at the 'tip of the spear', can help us understand when the corrupt Zelenskkyyy regime will collapse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45627517) |
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Date: December 25th, 2022 3:05 PM Author: lascivious queen of the night hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#45691189) |
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Date: December 25th, 2022 4:18 PM Author: Deep cracking institution sound barrier To be fair,
I believe this thread was OP'd before Putin died and Russia lost the war. |
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Date: March 5th, 2026 9:18 PM Author: Fragrant swollen puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5063644&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310900#49719640) |