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How much of the housing "crisis" is due to increased standards?
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Date: February 8th, 2026 4:33 PM Author: painfully honest persian I'm selling an investment property right now that's an example of this. It's not very nice, got a lot of wear and tear. No LVP flooring, no granite countertops, nothing like that. But it's livable. Four walls, a roof, plumbing works, etc. It's 3,000 square feet, plenty of room for a family. The house is selling for about $200,000, after sitting on the market for months. It's in a small town but it's about 40 minutes from a large city with lots of jobs.
There are tons and tons of houses like this out there. They're not new or nice, but they provide basic shelter. People lived in houses like this for decades. But it seems that many people would rather hold out for a 500k "starter" home that has all latest features rather than have a 1990s standard of living for cheap. Makes me doubt that there's truly a housing crisis. |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 4:39 PM Author: Nighttime volcanic crater 200k rounds to zero ITE. can i have it free? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656133) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 4:45 PM Author: Judgmental beady-eyed nursing home House like that costs $2MM anywhere that's not a shithole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656148) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 4:59 PM Author: painfully honest persian The town itself is admittedly a shithole. But it's close to a growing city with a million plus people in its metro area. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656177) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:02 PM Author: adventurous national security agency Don’t bury the lede my man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656189) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 12:06 PM Author: deranged bawdyhouse organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658097) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:15 PM Author: Judgmental beady-eyed nursing home What % white is local elementary school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656218) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:25 PM Author: painfully honest persian Not sure. Town is 50/50 black and white. Almost no Hispanics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656252) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:33 PM Author: Judgmental beady-eyed nursing home That means schools are 80% black (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656270) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:51 PM Author: painfully honest persian There are multiple all white private schools within 30 minutes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656293) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 6:07 PM Author: Judgmental beady-eyed nursing home Just do spend $120k / year on schools instead of an extra $20k / year to live in a white area. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656362) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 9:57 AM Author: Bonkers toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49657710) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 12:01 PM Author: mind-boggling obsidian macaca public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658067) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 6:07 PM Author: ivory 180 temple There it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656365) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 9:57 AM Author: Bonkers toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49657712) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:40 AM Author: magical locale goal in life those arent normal white people brother. I grew up in a town that was about 40% black 40% white 20% other. The white people were all like the white dudes from The Town or Gone Baby Gone.
these are the type of white people you dont fuck with. |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 12:01 PM Author: Bonkers toaster cr.
50% black means the remainder are SPS. OP is acting like the 50% white are leave it to beaver motherfuckers. lolno. everyone knows it, which is why his GREAT VALUE shitbox isn't moving. no one wants a starter house in 8mile. |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 12:04 PM Author: Orchid curious crotch abode Those Whites aren't "shit" thank you very much. Get the fuck out with that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658086) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 12:46 PM Author: Bonkers toaster i am one of those whites and have much love for my Scumbag kin. but there's a reason no Ascended Scumbag would his children amongst the Scum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658255) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 2:36 PM Author: histrionic orange stead fat ankles cr I'd assume the remaining whites make Frank Gallagher look like Ward Cleaver (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658648) |
Date: February 8th, 2026 4:46 PM Author: racy business firm yarmulke a 40 minute commute from a shithole barebones "investment" property is a crisis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656150) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 4:58 PM Author: Stimulating bearded associate I want to believe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656174) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:00 PM Author: painfully honest persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656178) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:19 PM Author: Razzle sinister french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656231) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 4:58 PM Author: Aphrodisiac hospital mexican everyone has to buy increasingly expensive homes to live around whites. houses and neighborhoods that might have been acceptable 20 years ago no longer are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656175) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:18 PM Author: amber box office 200k for 3000 sq ft means the town or district must be a real shithold. People had lower standards in the past maybe, but also more trust and comfort in their immediate surroundings and institutions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656230) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:19 PM Author: Razzle sinister french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656233) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:21 PM Author: racy business firm yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656241) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:24 PM Author: painfully honest persian Roof has problems, but total cost to do the basic repairs to the house is under 50k. And yes, the town is 50/50 black and white. But still, for 200k, someone's getting a bargain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656247) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:34 PM Author: Judgmental beady-eyed nursing home You need to lower price. It's only worth $100k. And even then, the buyer will be a dumbass out of town investor you're scamming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656272) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 6:46 PM Author: Razzle sinister french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656423) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 6:49 PM Author: Judgmental beady-eyed nursing home There are lots of companies out there who sell these houses to retarded out of state MDs and JDs trying to LARP as Grant Cardone. They fuck them on the sale, them rape them on management fees. Then fuck them taking a commission when they eventually sell to the next sucker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656430) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:56 AM Author: Orchid curious crotch abode I want to believe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658047) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 2:38 PM Author: histrionic orange stead fat ankles People in the market for a house that cheap need something they can move into, not one that requires a few gallon buckets under the ceiling that need be emptied every 10 minutes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658663) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:21 PM Author: opaque milk weed whacker most "problems" in US are caused by increasing expectations, if u look at avg size of US house its gone up and up, ppl expect to live in a McMansion even though they are losers
likewise more ppl get fraud college degrees and think they are entitled to a six figure plus jerb
and its not just the US its like this everywhere now even malaysia, nepal, whatever. ppl basically bitching and acting entitled like they deserve shit just cause society has told them get a faggot degree then u are set and shit, its all absurd crap |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:31 PM Author: painfully honest persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656267) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:58 AM Author: magical locale goal in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658058) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 5:58 PM Author: cream stirring station degenerate I’ve said this in the past w/r/t everything needing to be awesome now, awesome Countertops, Flooring instead of the garbage we used to have, proles in $70k SUVs when UMC dads in John Hughes movies drove modest midsize sedans.
Millennials also got it into their heads that living in flyover made them extremely irredeemably Losery, so coasts got more crowded than ever and Cleveland has thousands of Hectares of cheap housing, perhaps some of which with Linoleum flooring. And sure, No Jobs supposedly, but we have the republican caucus to blame for that. |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 6:08 PM Author: ivory 180 temple No, actually it's niggers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656368) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 6:18 PM Author: cream stirring station degenerate I live in a niggery city but e.g. Hoover, AL isn’t too diverse and isn’t too expensive. Northern cities are less niggery imo. If you’re in the tri-state then just ace OCI or live at home. Don’t try to be poor and buy a house, that’s dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656392) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 6:50 PM Author: Arousing Dopamine Deer Antler 90% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49656433) |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 9:33 PM Author: aromatic red corner idiot Regulations and zoning - but most regulations are because someone died once. So it's a trade off.
Edit: lol, I assumed your OP wouldn't be retarded. |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 10:01 AM Author: khaki floppy corn cake you used to be able to buy a crappy little house and not have to worry about terrible schools. that's no longer the case. so yes, it partially is a problem of "rising expectations", but only to the extent those were forced by societal degradation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49657733) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:36 AM Author: marvelous sticky chapel The schools were terrible academically back then too. Just now they're browner and blacker. Kids are more likely to get shot up going to a white school though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49657970) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:54 AM Author: khaki floppy corn cake that's not true at all. the school I went to growing up was dead middle of the road average but there was always enough of a critical mass of (relatively) smart kids to allow for honors classes and shit. sure it was no magnet with 20 APs, but the fact is that I felt like I got a reasonably good education. now it's just another declining shithole and you have to move to the pricier district to get the same experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658041) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 2:41 PM Author: histrionic orange stead fat ankles cr my parents' house in bumfuckland is in a neighborhood now infested with niggers and driveby shootings at least once per week. 40 years ago it was Ward Cleaver and his pedophile 20 year old kid living in the garage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658672) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 10:11 AM Author: big institution OP is very much hitting on something. asshole flippers are driving up the price of housing by doing these lipstick on a pig renos. they're pricing out normal people who could buy a shitty house and fix it up over time. and there are tons of idiots who will pay for the lipstick on a pig renos and/or have no choice bc that's all that's available.
the solution is to heavily disincentivize purchasing a home that isnt a primary residence. |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 10:11 AM Author: Razzle sinister french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49657755) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:08 AM Author: cream stirring station degenerate That’s already disincentivized. Taxes and insurance are expensive as hell for non owner occupied residences. To make money at it you have to be a boomer. It’s a great asset to Already Have if you’re rich but using it to build wealth seems Stupid unless you yourself are swinging the hammer imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49657874) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:44 AM Author: big institution rates, property taxes and insurance are basically the same if youre owner occupied or renting it out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658000) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:45 PM Author: cream stirring station degenerate What state are you in? Homestead is a factor in Alabama (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49659761) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:19 AM Author: Chestnut Galvanic Brunch no one wants to/knows how to do prole goy diy shit any more and is costs out the ass to pay others to do it for you. you're prob right about the non-primary residence stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49657925) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:45 AM Author: big institution i live in are country. tons of prole goy messrs fix it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658004) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 11:39 AM Author: marvelous sticky chapel It's not just housing. Everyone's expectations for what a middle class life should be are inflated because of social media and lifestyle creep. Most middle class people in the 70s and 80s lived in houses with 1200 sq ft, kids shared bedrooms, and everyone used the same bathroom. They ate frozen dinners and SPAM, and going out to dinner was a rare treat. Now everyone drives a massive SUV, orders doordash several times a week and expects cheap 3000 sq ft houses where everyone has their own private bedroom and bathroom and located right outside of a major metro. It's ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49657980) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 12:02 PM Author: electric puppy spot A lot of this is because a lot of millenials who were UMC in their little town or small city, growing up in a huge house that cost 200 to 300k back then, expect the same lifestyle they had growing up after they collectively moved to the coasts and made demand explode. And it don't work like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658077) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 12:10 PM Author: deranged bawdyhouse organic girlfriend It's called not living in a cramped shitbox.
Of course the houses are bigger, because people want to spend more time at home, having friends over, throwing birthday parties, chilling in a basement, and just enjoying their lives at home instead of having to go out and find some form of entertainment. |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 12:43 PM Author: marvelous sticky chapel My point is that people should expect to pay more for these luxuries and not complain about how prices are increasing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658247) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 12:45 PM Author: Motley Set Hominid Maybe. I kind of think they want the house to look cool in Instagram pictures. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49658253) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 6:42 PM Author: comical native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49659184) |
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Date: February 9th, 2026 6:54 PM Author: Doobsian infuriating church building feces I've come to hate the word nuanced, which is overused these days, but it is applicable here. People are paying $1M for tiny 3-bed shitshacks in southern California. You cannot touch a decent SFH in any decent school district for under $1M in SoCal or the Bay area. Even on the east coast, people are paying $1M for shitty splits and 1980s colonials in the DC or Boston or NY suburbs as long as they get decent schools. Location triumphs housing quality.
Housing is expensive because: 1. Decline of buildable lands close in. The age of mass subdivisions is over for many cities. There are exceptions like Texas and Florida, where they keep building new subdivisions after subdivisions (and are more prone to boom-bust cycles). 2. Population increases in all metro areas. 3. The economies of scale means it's more profitable for builders to squeeze bigger new houses on shrinking availability of land. Building starter homes makes no economic sense to the builders. 4. Demographic changes and social engineering like Move to Opportunity have seen many suburban school districts go from nicely decent to mediocre and people are chasing fewer and fewer good school districts, particularly close in.
Close in areas with hyperlocal good school districts are very expensive and shitshacks get multiple offers.
Blaming everything on inflated expectations for waterfall countertops and fake marble is a red herring. |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 6:46 PM Author: Aphrodisiac hospital mexican u could have just said "it's niggers and the jews" without typing all this out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5832546&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49666940) |