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"Restaurants" are such a joke now

and the staff know it too. if you are brazen enough to order...
Ebony cruise ship people who are hurt
  08/11/26
you're just bald, so every waitress marks you as a rube the ...
hilarious passionate locus
  08/11/26
you can take your crap and shove it
Ebony cruise ship people who are hurt
  08/11/26
here's your slop, now tip me.
Titillating Lime Public Bath
  08/11/26
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free-loading location
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Carmine swollen twinkling uncleanness shrine
  08/12/26
I was at a place that served you food in the take out box.
Vigorous candlestick maker friendly grandma
  08/11/26
did you tip 30%
indigo thirsty electric furnace
  08/11/26
Included
Vigorous candlestick maker friendly grandma
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Concupiscible brunch marketing idea
  08/11/26
How do people eat out? I have a top 10% income and LOL @ ...
dashing maize meetinghouse
  08/11/26
oh wow top 10%, well step right this way Mr. Gatsby
Ebony cruise ship people who are hurt
  08/11/26
he's a broke af third worlder
hilarious passionate locus
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Floppy set
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(guy who misses the point) unless the answer is only the ...
dashing maize meetinghouse
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Carmine swollen twinkling uncleanness shrine
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Talking beady-eyed library messiness
  08/12/26
looool!
free-loading location
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Orange Garrison
  08/11/26
i went to a high end turd resto and got a kashmiri kebab ove...
Mind-boggling menage juggernaut
  08/11/26
For all the silliness of The Burrito Discourse, it actually ...
Concupiscible brunch marketing idea
  08/11/26
yes. Like to my point above, if all of them are making $400k...
dashing maize meetinghouse
  08/11/26
I make over $400k and we cook 90% of our meals. And even whe...
House-broken Well-lubricated Property Cumskin
  08/11/26
jesus I get uncomfortable when my spending reaches half o...
dashing maize meetinghouse
  08/11/26
Honestly if not for women being in the picture, I think most...
House-broken Well-lubricated Property Cumskin
  08/11/26
Only those not addicted to the goyslop. If you're not addic...
hilarious passionate locus
  08/11/26
The crazy part is decent grocery stores now basically sell i...
House-broken Well-lubricated Property Cumskin
  08/12/26
Same. Once or twice a month we go to one of the three of fou...
at-the-ready corner brethren
  08/12/26
"But Vast majority of Americans make $50-$150k. How can...
razzle copper becky
  08/11/26
When I came back to USA and heard so many doordash, I was li...
dashing maize meetinghouse
  08/11/26
credit
Mustard gunner
  08/12/26
asia though also gone up a lot, the days of eating thai or v...
Mind-boggling menage juggernaut
  08/11/26
I eat 3 cans of beans per day (breakfast, lunch, dinner); my...
Pink autistic chad kitchen
  08/11/26
seems like there's substantial efficiency to be gained by co...
Poppy Piazza
  08/11/26
thank you for your feedback i am processing this in real tim...
Pink autistic chad kitchen
  08/11/26
He's right though, at those quantities it doesn't make sense...
Multi-colored multi-billionaire
  08/11/26
you're Wrong. beans cooked at home are Shit.
Pink autistic chad kitchen
  08/11/26
I'm a beanius and you won't go back
Multi-colored multi-billionaire
  08/11/26
more like beantard
Pink autistic chad kitchen
  08/11/26
This is what burritos are for
Concupiscible brunch marketing idea
  08/11/26
tortillas are shelf stable for 6 years now imo
Pink autistic chad kitchen
  08/11/26
Fast food and other slop chips are expensive now because the...
hilarious passionate locus
  08/11/26
u cld have just poasted: JEWS
Mind-boggling menage juggernaut
  08/11/26
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House-broken Well-lubricated Property Cumskin
  08/12/26
it's not CRE prices lmao
Pink autistic chad kitchen
  08/11/26
there is nothing weird about it at all. the food industry re...
Spruce razzle-dazzle elastic band
  08/11/26
yeah man have u seen sweetgreen's margins lately it's basica...
vermilion wagecucks skinny woman
  08/11/26
What you just described in your post is in fact extremely we...
Concupiscible brunch marketing idea
  08/11/26
It does sound weird but it's spot-on. Doordash changed the g...
razzle copper becky
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literal whales
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  08/11/26
maybe we should eat the bugs
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I always found the right wing obsession with "we will n...
House-broken Well-lubricated Property Cumskin
  08/12/26
I just walk up to the drive thru
misanthropic know-it-all school trust fund
  08/12/26
I took my family out to eat once this summer (for their gran...
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  08/12/26
not knowing how to cook, and being in control of most of you...
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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:46 PM
Author: Ebony cruise ship people who are hurt

and the staff know it too. if you are brazen enough to order something they'll look at you like "lol fucking idiot" and then toss your slop onto the table

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060794)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:50 PM
Author: hilarious passionate locus

you're just bald, so every waitress marks you as a rube the moment you walk in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060802)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:55 PM
Author: Ebony cruise ship people who are hurt

you can take your crap and shove it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060812)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:51 PM
Author: Titillating Lime Public Bath

here's your slop, now tip me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060804)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: free-loading location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063199)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:39 AM
Author: Carmine swollen twinkling uncleanness shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063214)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:58 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker friendly grandma

I was at a place that served you food in the take out box.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060813)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:58 PM
Author: indigo thirsty electric furnace

did you tip 30%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060814)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:03 PM
Author: Vigorous candlestick maker friendly grandma

Included

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060828)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Concupiscible brunch marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060868)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:02 PM
Author: dashing maize meetinghouse

How do people eat out?

I have a top 10% income and LOL @ the idea of eating out more than once a month at a place with a waiter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060824)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:10 PM
Author: Ebony cruise ship people who are hurt

oh wow top 10%, well step right this way Mr. Gatsby

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060846)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:14 PM
Author: hilarious passionate locus

he's a broke af third worlder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060859)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:21 PM
Author: Floppy set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061624)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:16 PM
Author: dashing maize meetinghouse

(guy who misses the point)

unless the answer is only the top 3% eat out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060861)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:02 PM
Author: Pink autistic chad kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061418)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: spectacular personal credit line love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061475)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:16 AM
Author: at-the-ready corner brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063165)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:19 AM
Author: Carmine swollen twinkling uncleanness shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063178)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: Talking beady-eyed library messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063181)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:30 AM
Author: free-loading location

looool!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063201)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:03 PM
Author: Orange Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060826)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:12 PM
Author: Mind-boggling menage juggernaut

i went to a high end turd resto and got a kashmiri kebab over naan with a beer and it was $16 which is quite high for me but whatever, i only eat like one meal a day, in US this wld be $100

i didnt tip except for leaving a 10 coin which is like $.03 cents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060851)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Concupiscible brunch marketing idea

For all the silliness of The Burrito Discourse, it actually is crazy what a massive disconnect there is between eating out in the US and Asia

You can eat out for super cheap in Asia. Meanwhile over here you are paying a comically enormous mark-up for anything. Even fast food is now ridiculously expensive. But people here are still eating out more than ever. It's like they're just resigned to it and think they have no other option

It's super fucking weird. Like the population has been legit brainwashed into this behavior as social conditioning. Something very weird going on with this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060867)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:21 PM
Author: dashing maize meetinghouse

yes. Like to my point above, if all of them are making $400k+ then cool.

But Vast majority of Americans make $50-$150k. How can these people afford to eat out more than once a month? lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060883)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: House-broken Well-lubricated Property Cumskin

I make over $400k and we cook 90% of our meals. And even when we go out, it's nothing special. Very few places feel worthwhile at this point.

I think most people just do their 401K contributions and then spend basically every other dollar. Totally brutal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060922)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:01 PM
Author: dashing maize meetinghouse

jesus

I get uncomfortable when my spending reaches half of my pay (pre tax to be fair). I'm also in a low tax bracket (under 20%)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061416)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:23 PM
Author: House-broken Well-lubricated Property Cumskin

Honestly if not for women being in the picture, I think most men would be content eating chicken, rice, beans, and eggs and maybe going to a diner once a week. Monthly cost would be like $200.

At least I'd be down for that tbh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061484)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:33 PM
Author: hilarious passionate locus

Only those not addicted to the goyslop. If you're not addicted to the goyslop, then grilled chicken + some roasted vegetables is a simple, healthy meal that most dudes would be fine with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061504)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:29 AM
Author: House-broken Well-lubricated Property Cumskin

The crazy part is decent grocery stores now basically sell ingredients with most of the prep work done. I recently bought some pre-cut and seasoned chicken to make tacos at home and it was better than Chipotle for 1/10th the price (and it fed multiple people). It was like $5 and it could've fed me across three meals easily.

That's what's crazy. You don't even really need to know how to cook beyond heating a fucking pan at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063097)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: at-the-ready corner brethren

Same. Once or twice a month we go to one of the three of four places we like and trust. Take out maybe twice a month. Everything else at home. Dining out is generally a nightmare for a variety of reasons. If no wife I might never eat a meal outside my home again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063197)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:55 PM
Author: razzle copper becky

"But Vast majority of Americans make $50-$150k. How can these people afford to eat out more than once a month? lol"

I deliver a LOT of Doordash to fairly crappy apartments.

People's brains basically short-circuit when it comes to food.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061549)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 6:02 PM
Author: dashing maize meetinghouse

When I came back to USA and heard so many doordash, I was like cool.

Then I tried to order some McDonalds and it was going to be more than $20 for 1 meal and that's if I offered like a $2 tip which apperently wouldn't get a driver.

I never tried to do that again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061749)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 1:04 AM
Author: Mustard gunner

credit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50062725)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 1:29 PM
Author: Mind-boggling menage juggernaut

asia though also gone up a lot, the days of eating thai or viet for $1-2 are almost gone, its more like $3-5 now

US still moar rapist though cause it has jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50060897)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:03 PM
Author: Pink autistic chad kitchen

I eat 3 cans of beans per day (breakfast, lunch, dinner); my monthly food costs, given palletization of my inputs, is just under $80

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061423)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:13 PM
Author: Poppy Piazza

seems like there's substantial efficiency to be gained by cooking your own beans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061449)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:13 PM
Author: Pink autistic chad kitchen

thank you for your feedback i am processing this in real time and we will likely make those changes before the next launch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061453)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: Multi-colored multi-billionaire

He's right though, at those quantities it doesn't make sense to not cook a pound a week freeze some portions and have an ever rotating supply of variety

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061521)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:56 PM
Author: Pink autistic chad kitchen

you're Wrong. beans cooked at home are Shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061554)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:17 PM
Author: Multi-colored multi-billionaire

I'm a beanius and you won't go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061614)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: Pink autistic chad kitchen

more like beantard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061655)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:16 PM
Author: Concupiscible brunch marketing idea

This is what burritos are for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061461)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: Pink autistic chad kitchen

tortillas are shelf stable for 6 years now imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061478)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:31 PM
Author: hilarious passionate locus

Fast food and other slop chips are expensive now because the commercial real estate rents have become insane. Moreover, since the Great Inflation, property values have increased massively, so now the property taxes are outrageous as well.

So for any of these slop shops to make it, they have to charge $16 for a burger and $20.99 for the fries & drink combo meal.

America has an addiction economy now where the main drug of choice is genetically modified goyslop created in labs. The fast food and everything else is meant to be addicting. There's no fundamental difference between the fent junkie on the street and the obese Guatemalan family you see who just got done gorging themselves on some Wendy's. These people have effectively given up on life. They're now just slaves to their passions (i.e. addicts).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061498)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:32 PM
Author: Mind-boggling menage juggernaut

u cld have just poasted: JEWS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061500)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:36 AM
Author: House-broken Well-lubricated Property Cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063106)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: Pink autistic chad kitchen

it's not CRE prices lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061528)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:01 PM
Author: Spruce razzle-dazzle elastic band

there is nothing weird about it at all. the food industry realized people are fat lazy fucks and will pay the premium to not cook their own food. covid in particular opened the flood gates because once restaurants/fast food saw how much people were willing to pay for doordash fees they realized they could just raise the base prices by a shitload.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061570)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:10 PM
Author: vermilion wagecucks skinny woman

yeah man have u seen sweetgreen's margins lately it's basically saas / luxury retail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061600)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:11 PM
Author: Concupiscible brunch marketing idea

What you just described in your post is in fact extremely weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061601)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: razzle copper becky

It does sound weird but it's spot-on. Doordash changed the game. If it wasn't for them, all the quick-service restaurants would still be playing their old games of trying to win business with discounts.

The discounts have gone away because the restaurants have all realized they can make plenty of money by soaking Doordash whales.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061651)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:28 AM
Author: dashing maize meetinghouse

literal whales

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50062815)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: at-the-ready corner brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063200)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:16 AM
Author: glittery foreskin toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063069)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:20 PM
Author: Violet Nursing Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061623)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: 180 rusted institution windowlicker

maybe we should eat the bugs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50061709)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:38 AM
Author: House-broken Well-lubricated Property Cumskin

I always found the right wing obsession with "we will not eat bugs" kind of crazy because it's like...yeah, obviously WE won't. But the human detritus that makes up a large and growing portion of the population will. They will eat whatever is foisted upon them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063108)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 1:13 AM
Author: misanthropic know-it-all school trust fund

I just walk up to the drive thru

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50062739)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:24 AM
Author: Chest-beating stirring hominid tank

I took my family out to eat once this summer (for their grandmother's birthday). There were 8 of us at the table. The bill was like $340.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891961&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#50063086)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:30 AM
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not knowing how to cook, and being in control of most of your meals, is ttt

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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:40 AM
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How do people go on first dates to restaurants; its a $350 commitment and no one wants to be responsible for that. Its just too much too soon.



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