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All of these "AI sucks" people are retarded, right?
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 4:00 PM Author: Kevin "Canadian" Bacon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49612642) |
Date: January 23rd, 2026 4:02 PM Author: Ass Sunstein It's horrible and will be the death of us all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49612646) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 4:02 PM Author: Kevin "Canadian" Bacon That's probably true but a different subject (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49612650) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:20 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613460) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:12 PM Author: Kevin "Canadian" Bacon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613252) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:14 PM Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( ) its "creative" output is pure mediocrity at best, that much is true imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613254) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:15 PM Author: zesty no doubt in my mind it is 100% evil (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613259) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:16 PM Author: More Dates, More Rapes I just think back to how shitty the internet was in like 1996, and the magnitude of its advancement since then.
AI is in its 1995/1996 stage, and it has the benefit of recursive self-improvement.
in 30 years, things will be pretty weird. |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:52 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613389) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:19 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png They're driven entirely by hopium. The actual reality of the situation disturbs them too much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613267) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:20 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) It's a gimmick that isn't going to be nearly as impactful as the sheeple think it will be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613269) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:21 PM Author: zesty i have no clue how u could come to the conclusion that its a gimmick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613274) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:22 PM Author: Mister Yak You people are so furking weird. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613278) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:22 PM Author: zesty bro ive done so much w it, its no gimmick
hell a math problem was solved using it
https://www.eweek.com/news/gpt-5-2-just-solved-a-30-year-math-problem/
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:24 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) And now that that math "puzzle" has been solved, how will are society change? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613286) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:31 PM Author: zesty damn maybe u r black (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613308) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:45 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613516) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:57 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..:. Math and coding have seen very rapid progress with LLMs and are also domains that are highly relevant for AI research. Agentic coding models can already substantially automate the setup and evaluation of a machine learning research task. If a model can solve advanced math problems, it’s also likely quite good at finding code optimizations. Deep learning progress has been almost entirely driven by empirical results rather than clever theoretical analysis, so if you can automate the search process with LLMs and increasingly larger data centers (allowing more experiments), AI capabilities are likely to grow much more quickly going forward. Models in less than 10 years are likely to be broadly superhuman and make humans economically irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613541) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 11:00 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) You mean we can have even more apps on our phones?
One thing that would be awesome is for IG to use "AI" to develop a usable search function. The next frontier? |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 11:04 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..:. AI will be much smarter than all of humanity in your lifetime, htfh. Nothing you do will matter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613560) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:23 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) Did you see the RSF dancing video? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613282) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:24 PM Author: zesty a masterpiece
ur looking at a toddler and treating it like a fully grown man filled w steroids
wait two weeks |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:30 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) Everyone will be able to make their own full-length movies in 5 years? That's really amazing, but no one is going to watch them. |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:31 PM Author: zesty so in ur mind ai = only making movies? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613305) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:32 PM Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( ) Yeah, no one can address this afaict. Who the fuck wants to watch something that no one could be bothered to make with blood, sweat, tears. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613314) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:34 PM Author: zesty on a similar thread ai music is alreay hitting charts
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/ai-generated-country-song-topping-billboards-country-digital/story?id=127445549 |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:38 PM Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( ) Yeah I concede that there are formulaic commercial enterprises like pop country music that are easily supplanted by tech, but that’s just because this kind of music has always been terrible and is merely simplistic slop for proles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613342) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:39 PM Author: zesty u guys r so trite its laughable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613346) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:41 PM Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( ) I’m not saying I’m right. Maybe people really will watch AI content and it will be really successful. I don’t know why this would be the case, but then again there’s a lot of things that the masses love that I couldn’t care less about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613354) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:47 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) You're forgetting the key fact that once we all start making and watching/listening to each other's AI generated content, OUR WHOLE WORLD WILL CHANGE, and there will be NO MORE WORK! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613521) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 9:44 AM Author: cowgod (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49614078) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 9:43 AM Author: cowgod lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49614076) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:21 PM Author: Mister Yak Hey @grok is that true? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613275) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:22 PM Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( ) it isn't even AI. the fact that it is successfully marketed as Artificial Intelligence speaks volumes about the intelligence of the public. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613277) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:24 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613287) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 9:45 AM Author: cowgod are you an Engineer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49614080) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:46 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) It's as much of a gimmick as the internet itself. Your generation will be like boomers with cell phones when it comes to AI, hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613366) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:48 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) We should try being opposing counsel on a case. You use "AI" for your side, and I'll use my brain for mine, and we'll see what happens.
Edit: Wait, we kinda already were weren't we? Weren't you helping ZZZ back then? I guess that was before "AI," but I kinda doubt it would've helped you guys get a better outcome. |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:52 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) Nah, I wasn't involved at all.
That would be fun, though |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:54 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) nffi, you and ZZZ are thick as thieves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613533) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:21 PM Author: Mister Yak It's the other way around. You can instantly tell that someone is a retard when they trust "AI" over their own brain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613272) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:24 PM Author: Kevin "Canadian" Bacon The opposite would be that "AI sucks" people are geniuses. Is that your thesis? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613283) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:36 PM Author: Mister Yak hey @grok is this really true? Is that what he means @grok? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613328) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:24 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png No one does this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613285) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:35 PM Author: Mister Yak Yes they do!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613326) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:18 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png Great link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613454) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:34 PM Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,, AI has far surpassed what i think reasonable people thought was possible in terms of creating content. The video generation is insane. The speed at which it can draft great letters or articles is nuts.
Thankfully, I think AI is way behind on reasoning - to where i don't think it will ever replace doctors/lawyers/accountants/etc.
Last week i used it to check a document, and it instantly gave out better analysis than i could and attributed the differences between two statements based on this isoteric county regulation. The problem was, the real difference between the two statements was one of the vendors increased their bid.
When I ask AI about it, it's just like "you're right." And when i ask why it didn't catch that, its just like "you're right i should have caught that."
I'm not sure how you can ever replace its "thinking" because it isn't thinking - its just guessing words, right? |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:36 PM Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( ) It isn’t thinking or reasoning because it isn’t AI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613330) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:48 PM Author: Total Technology Death (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613371) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:49 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. "When I ask AI about it, it's just like "you're right." And when i ask why it didn't catch that, its just like "you're right i should have caught that.""
Fun fact: if you were relying on a lawyer fresh out of law school the exact same thing would have happened. |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:17 PM Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,, My point though is I actually don't think the first year would've made the same mistake though - like the AI picked up on an experienced local counsel would've picked up on - it just wasn't applicable - and instead it missed something my mom would've figured out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613445) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:54 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png It's using statistics to develop a probabalistic estimate of what words you want to see placed in what order. It doesn't know what any of the words mean. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613534) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:46 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Yes. I was buying a new car. AI walks me through exactly what car I should buy, checks market trends, runs depreciation compared to the car I'm trading in, tells me things like if my current home charger will have issues charging the new car, whether it makes sense considering the car I'm trading in and the price I'm getting for that and whether it is a good second car for my other car, etc. Then it asks me for the VIN of the car I'm considering so it can make sure it isn't a scam, confirms that the dealership is legit and the price is good and that it has all the features I want.
Someone at work got a ticket on MLK day for speeding in a school zone. He isn't a lawyer but he uploads it to Gemini and it immediately notes that school is closed on MLK day, that he should contest it and cites the statutory language he needs.
It is impressive as shit and a complete gamechanger. |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:50 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) The *only* problem with AI is that it will completely eliminate menial white color work, much in the way that mexicans eliminated landscaping jobs etc for white proles. It will hit overleveraged millennials the hardest, which is par for the course considering millennials have had the worst economic conditions out of any generation in history. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613379) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:51 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png Like you know π (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613386) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:54 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) I have been working in AI longer than anyone on xo. Of course I know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613393) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:06 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png The most you can say is "working in" because you've done nothing and you're dumb as a rock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613422) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:18 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) I'm literally a named inventor on a patent involving AI (that was my contribution), but whatever you say (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613452) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:20 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png lol@ this. I know Russian immigrants who file patents for stupid shit all the time. You expect a lawyer to be impressed that someone filed a patent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613459) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:20 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) mine was filed by columbia university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613461) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:29 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png Go back to Tel Aviv little bitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613488) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:38 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) I am a white catholic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613505) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:40 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png Yeah rightπ€£ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613508) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 10:10 AM Author: Pumonymous Slavs aren’t white (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49614134) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 10:12 AM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png He's also Jewish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49614138) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:56 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Not just "menial" but especially entry level work. If a junior associate will do it and produce that with the same mistake why would I hire the junior associate? But the way the junior gets past making those mistakes is working that entry level job.
Menial labor is absolutely dying. At my megacorps a decade ago every lawyer had an EA, even if they're at the bottom band. Several years ago, they eliminated that. You had to at least be director band to have an EA. Scheduling meetings and such used to be a big hassle but with Google Calendar it is super easy, so they just RIFed a bunch of them. Now they eliminated EAs for directors too. Only the most senior lawyers have EAs now. Now imagine you're a 50-something EA that just lost her job. What job do you imagine these ladies are capable of getting? I think most of them will never have full time jobs again. |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:00 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613408) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:01 PM Author: Mister Yak Nigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613411) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:59 PM Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump They can be nannies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613547) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:51 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/ovcBe0z.png cr. If there's a bubble it's based on the expectation that this will all require hugely expensive computers and big data centers consuming gigawatts of power. I think it's quite likely the bag-holders will be people who spend billions on tech that becomes outdated in six months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613385) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:53 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) Two counterpoints here (which require a human IQ of >110 to detect):
1. You have no idea whether the car it told you to buy is going to be good for you. You're just following what it told you to do.
2. If your friend was so retarded that he was unaware that Monday was MLK Day, he should be fined for that alone. |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 11:03 PM Author: Gay Grandpa A lot of people know it as James Earl Ray Day, so he can be forgiven. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613557) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 11:54 PM Author: Kevin "Canadian" Bacon I used gpt in realtime to negotiate with the dealer last year. I pretended like I was texting a friend but my negotiation was so on point (sounded like I'd done this 100 times but from the other end) that after 5 mins of back and forth (using a script from gpt) he just gave me his bottom line.
Then I used it to figure out which service / warranty add-ons to reject at the sales manager office. Then scrutinize the final docs. It caught duplicate line items of 1 $699 add-on from a 20 page pdf with mostly boilerplate and signature lines. This was 2 random SKUs spread out over like 60 rows of tiny font. I made them remove before singing of course
I bet most people don't even read the docs before leaving with the car, after taking 5 hours to negotiate a worse deal! |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 11:55 PM Author: zesty id rather just buy a used car than deal w that shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613659) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 11:58 PM Author: Kevin "Canadian" Bacon Typing words to an app? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613672) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 11:59 PM Author: zesty jumping through hoops like a circus monkey (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613678) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 11:59 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) buying a used car is the exact same thing except now you get to throw in a new variable: that the actual condition of the car is as described. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613676) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 12:00 AM Author: zesty nah i come w cash, buy the car, then fix everything myself
idgaf whats wrong w it |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 12:03 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) "except now you get to throw in a new variable: that the actual condition of the car is as described."
"Hi Cove, here's a picture of the used car I want to buy. Does this look mechanically sound?"
"You're doing great, and I'm sure this will be the used car of your dreams!" |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 11:59 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) that's actually 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613675) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 12:00 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) "Hi Cove, the sales guy said ___. What should I say in response?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5825604&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310901#49613684) |