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At what point do you kill your family dog?

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of h...
Bat-shit-crazy Dashing Half-breed
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if...
Aphrodisiac lemon locale
  12/01/25
https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-c...
Aphrodisiac lemon locale
  12/01/25
Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Gettin...
Bat-shit-crazy Dashing Half-breed
  12/01/25
Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place....
Aphrodisiac lemon locale
  12/01/25
Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think w...
Bat-shit-crazy Dashing Half-breed
  12/01/25
Good luck.
Aphrodisiac lemon locale
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then ...
pungent french chef heaven
  12/01/25
check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding
Navy meetinghouse gay wizard
  12/01/25
if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if yo...
slimy circlehead
  12/01/25
No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can g...
Bat-shit-crazy Dashing Half-breed
  12/01/25
unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't al...
slimy circlehead
  12/01/25
tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that y...
zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig
  12/01/25
bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisti...
slimy circlehead
  12/01/25
It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to ...
zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig
  12/01/25
How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance c...
Flesh adventurous wagecucks location
  12/01/25
Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a w...
zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig
  12/01/25
are you mentally retarded
Thriller Brunch
  12/01/25
Show your work. I’ve shown mine If some vet tomorro...
zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig
  12/01/25
how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and...
Thriller Brunch
  12/01/25
Wait 6 months
zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig
  12/01/25
loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart
Thriller Brunch
  12/01/25
Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools ...
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  12/01/25
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Aphrodisiac lemon locale
  12/01/25
I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigatin...
Swashbuckling frisky lodge
  12/01/25
Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the...
Flesh adventurous wagecucks location
  12/01/25
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Fragrant party of the first part prole
  12/01/25
i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscio...
motley nighttime masturbator
  12/01/25
I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitat...
Aphrodisiac lemon locale
  12/01/25
cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog a...
concupiscible gas station
  12/01/25
Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, esp...
zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig
  12/01/25
I've noticed this. I can't say I spent a ton of time brow...
Unhinged stage
  12/02/25
when you're hungry
Soggy rigor
  12/01/25
That’s always tough and there’s no right answer....
sooty point crotch
  12/01/25
just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have s...
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  12/01/25
when the wok is at a rolling boil
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  12/01/25
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wild newt
  12/02/25
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duck-like lascivious church building selfie
  12/02/25
I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insa...
Crystalline psychic
  12/01/25
i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. ...
zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig
  12/01/25
There’s ways the dog can make it up to you after the s...
bateful mint university
  12/01/25
Hey mig, you murdered your dog bc he annoyed you. Thoughts h...
duck-like lascivious church building selfie
  12/02/25
my extended family did the dog surgery/chemo stuff once and ...
Outnumbered Spectacular Stage Jap
  12/02/25
i do it in the first year, before anyone gets too attached.
wild newt
  12/02/25
Update: Got a second opinion from a country vet an hour away...
Bat-shit-crazy Dashing Half-breed
  12/04/25
180
zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig
  12/04/25
180 fuck those vet scammers
curious preventive strike stain
  12/04/25
180
Outnumbered Spectacular Stage Jap
  12/04/25
180. This is why you get second opinions. Also, never use ...
Aphrodisiac lemon locale
  12/04/25


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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Dashing Half-breed

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of her. Unfortunately, she has a collapsing trachea, which will progressively worsen until it suffocates her to death. Could be months, could be years. In the meantime, I can pay $5,000 for a tracheal surgery which could more or less “cure” the issue but even then she’s looking at maybe 5 years tops. I’m also Poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474553)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac lemon locale

I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if the vet is ripping you off. Get a few other second opinions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474558)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac lemon locale

https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-cost



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474580)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Dashing Half-breed

Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Getting multiple opinions though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474589)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac lemon locale

Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place.

If not, I recommend some veterinary schools. They may be cheaper, especially if you allow them to work with students on the dog (it would be supervised by faculty).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474597)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Dashing Half-breed

Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think we have a couple nearby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474630)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac lemon locale

Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474905)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: pungent french chef heaven

I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then don’t do it, just put the dog to sleep when it’s time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474569)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: Navy meetinghouse gay wizard

check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474573)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: slimy circlehead

if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if you don't and really can't afford the $5k, it might old yeller time...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474577)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Dashing Half-breed

No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can get it cheaper. It’s hard to kill something over money. Obviously there’s a threshold but WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474583)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: slimy circlehead

unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't already have insurance. your vet records will show that the tests for this condition predate the policy. still try though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474588)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig

tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that you dont show them?

is there some national database of vet records?

one weird trick: cant op just get insurance now and keep quiet about any vet records in existence and let do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474598)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: slimy circlehead

bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisting conditions the insurance conundrum is solved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474614)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig

It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to be hidden because most people are not just going to random doctors but having their claims submitted to major national insurance companies so there’s essentially a national database of your medical record through insurance claims.

For dogs its not the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474674)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Flesh adventurous wagecucks location

How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance company will demand to see as a condition of coverage and will scour for any sign of breathing issues?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474642)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig

Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a walk in clinic for shots and I have those records. There’s no records of annual checkups or blood work or anything that would document any physical condition our dog has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474668)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Thriller Brunch

are you mentally retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474676)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig

Show your work. I’ve shown mine

If some vet tomorrow said my dog had a major problem, I’d never mention that visit. I’d simply show the insurance company the records of the walk in clinics where we’ve gotten vaccines over the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474692)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Thriller Brunch

how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and report a collapsing trachea to them tomorrow, even if its a lie. lets see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474756)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:31 PM
Author: zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig

Wait 6 months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474854)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: Thriller Brunch

loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474658)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: Flesh adventurous wagecucks location

Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools often have discounted rates so vet students can learn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474609)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac lemon locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474613)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: Swashbuckling frisky lodge

I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigating a case against a state insurance regulator and got a bunch of their internal emails, and they absolutely RIP on pet insurance. They use it as a shorthand for a scammy worthless product.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474913)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:10 PM
Author: Flesh adventurous wagecucks location

Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the surgery instead. Otherwise put down the dog if it looks very uncomfortable all the time. This should be a high bar, though.. Dogs are very resilient and adapt to most shit that life brings them. *takes gun out of mouth* we can learn a lot from them, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474599)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: Fragrant party of the first part prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474657)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: motley nighttime masturbator

i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscious. my ex (a vet) and i got in a big fight over this. it seems extraordinarily selfish consider $5k could make a lot of other pets (and humans) lives much better.

with kids you could mentally frame it as paying for their happiness but if youre poor your money is better spent elsewhere imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474611)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac lemon locale

I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitation. That said, my last dog (a giant dog too) beat cancer twice, was a diabetic, lived to 13 and all of her care combined was under $10k. I never spent $5k on any single thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474617)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:16 PM
Author: concupiscible gas station

cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog and think about how excited your kids will be about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474621)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig

Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, especially in an expensive area like where OP seems to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474679)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:04 AM
Author: Unhinged stage

I've noticed this.

I can't say I spent a ton of time browsing dog adoption ads years ago, but it can't always have been like this.

I look at what the nearest shelter has and the vast majority are shitpits and the remainder are kinda sad looking, not particularly cute dogs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49476314)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: Soggy rigor

when you're hungry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474626)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: sooty point crotch

That’s always tough and there’s no right answer. My last dog didn’t make it quite to 11 and went pretty quick, natural time for the breed. But I told myself if it ever looked like he was suffering I’d take him out for all the cheeseburgers he could eat and then give him a lethal dose of meds and sit there with him till he was gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474690)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Plum Twinkling Uncleanness Electric Furnace

just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have some shitlib couple pay for the surgery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474693)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Deranged misunderstood sweet tailpipe casino

when the wok is at a rolling boil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49474698)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Red quadroon crackhouse



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: Carmine site lettuce



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: cracking theatre



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:34 PM
Author: zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: wild newt

rorring boir

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49476768)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: Comical slate plaza

PAGING metaphysics is gay the poaster

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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: duck-like lascivious church building selfie



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: Crystalline psychic

I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insane but you gotta save the dog. Even at $5k, you're renting the dog for $80/month. I'm sure if you asked your kids if they'd rather skip eating out once a month or kill the dog, they'd choose the former. This is a crossroads where you can put them more on the route to becoming autoadmit sociopaths or make them more normal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49475049)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig

i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. at 11, the dog may die in 2-3 yrs even with the surgery -- of something related to the condition, or of other old age shit. the surgery doesnt guarantee him living until 16 by any means. that being said, i totally agree that you've got to save the dog but shop around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49475054)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: bateful mint university

There’s ways the dog can make it up to you after the surgery. It will owe you and you can exploit that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49476042)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: duck-like lascivious church building selfie

Hey mig, you murdered your dog bc he annoyed you. Thoughts here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49476328)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Outnumbered Spectacular Stage Jap

my extended family did the dog surgery/chemo stuff once and i wouldn't do it again. yes it probably extended the life of the dog a year or something. but the dog cannot understand why it is in short term pain. it's a sad moment but i would say pick the day and end it is a compassionate OK thing to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49476759)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: wild newt

i do it in the first year, before anyone gets too attached.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49476764)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Dashing Half-breed

Update: Got a second opinion from a country vet an hour away. He says NOT collapsed trachea, just borderline, but he needs heart meds. So now I have a nearly blind old dog on heart failure meds, but he should be sticking around for a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49483765)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: zippy exhilarant dysfunction codepig

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49483931)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: curious preventive strike stain

180 fuck those vet scammers



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49483958)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Outnumbered Spectacular Stage Jap

180

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Date: December 4th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac lemon locale

180. This is why you get second opinions. Also, never use the first vet again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49484590)