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"Marriage" offers basically nothing for the man

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Electric high-end hominid
  12/07/25
another LOSER ASIAN whining about women!
deranged pistol
  01/20/26
How long you been married, gookcel ?
pale menage gunner
  01/20/26
so many threads from ASIANS complaining about women!
deranged pistol
  01/20/26
You can’t complain about something you never had
pale menage gunner
  01/20/26
white men dont pay for sex either dont forget!
deranged pistol
  01/20/26
https://youtu.be/pKQp61e94VE?si=hVdTEb0VnwG1Z3yC
Electric high-end hominid
  01/22/26
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deranged pistol
  01/22/26
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nyuug
  01/28/26
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nyuug
  02/02/26
MFCR, the only reason to get married is to have children and...
Dark misanthropic abode
  12/07/25
I, like dupa, have four children.
claret pervert
  12/07/25
One for each hundred pounds you carry around!
Dark misanthropic abode
  12/07/25
rofl. i've got one son for each 45 pounds i carry around
beady-eyed ocher box office goal in life
  12/07/25
You should try that math equation out on yourself, bud.
claret pervert
  12/07/25
Calm down bud we dont want you to stroke out you fat pig
Dark misanthropic abode
  12/07/25
You can’t divide by zero, loser.
claret pervert
  12/07/25
simmer down tons of fun
Dark misanthropic abode
  12/07/25
You can do that just as easily with a BM The political atta...
Electric high-end hominid
  12/07/25
the childless wandering sybarite speaks truth
coral aggressive address preventive strike
  12/08/25
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Opaque passionate office famous landscape painting
  12/08/25
Edit: Sorry man, nevermind, I don't really know your whole s...
Opaque passionate office famous landscape painting
  12/11/25
"Wedlock"ed in place and easy to manipulate and ga...
Electric high-end hominid
  12/07/25
love my kids, love my wife tp
bateful olive university
  12/07/25
I make homemade pizza from scratch. Fresh mozz too. I'm maki...
laughsome locus rigpig
  12/07/25
the other half of the dough will make great fresh baked brea...
laughsome locus rigpig
  12/07/25
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sickened floppy partner halford
  12/07/25
bunch of scholarship people looked at the data and found Ear...
trip crackhouse gay wizard
  12/07/25
the (((data)))
Magenta charismatic property dopamine
  12/07/25
Correlation vs causation. Women don't want to marry some sad...
chestnut pea-brained philosopher-king milk
  12/07/25
What about the sex my guy? You get a live-in slut that you c...
Magenta charismatic property dopamine
  12/07/25
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Cerise candlestick maker personal credit line
  12/07/25
That's called a girlfriend
chestnut pea-brained philosopher-king milk
  12/07/25
(virgin)
Dun Offensive House Volcanic Crater
  12/07/25
we're talking about marriage not having an au pair
aromatic bawdyhouse
  12/07/25
every single married guy i know would be better off single e...
aromatic bawdyhouse
  12/07/25
add me in. i'm married w 3 sons and a wife who keeps slim an...
beady-eyed ocher box office goal in life
  12/07/25
you are literally a pumo
aromatic bawdyhouse
  12/07/25
u are the biggest fucking faggot in need of validation in ex...
maniacal clown
  12/07/25
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Primrose histrionic area
  12/07/25
Describe these marriages where the wife doesn't give the hus...
confused hairless sweet tailpipe
  12/07/25
they are just really attractive high status guys so their wi...
aromatic bawdyhouse
  12/07/25
Are the wives waiting on these guys hand and foot? Or are t...
confused hairless sweet tailpipe
  12/08/25
my wife is introverted and hates thingdoing. she thinks i'm ...
beady-eyed ocher box office goal in life
  12/07/25
u are the biggest fucking faggot in need of validation in ex...
maniacal clown
  12/07/25
Women are great when they’re happy and you’re gi...
Stubborn coiffed internal respiration corner
  12/07/25
ok so don't marry some vengeful dipshit shrew ez gg
Electric high-end hominid
  12/07/25
Can you convince my brother of this before he kills self tha...
Cobalt resort liquid oxygen
  12/07/25
is he married to meghan markle
Electric high-end hominid
  12/07/25
He’s not married but is convinced that he wants to be ...
Cobalt resort liquid oxygen
  12/07/25
I enjoy my life and my kids. I get it though being single wo...
lemon ladyboy
  12/07/25
Tax advantages, possibly better benefits. These two are huge...
erotic rigor school cafeteria
  12/08/25
Wife who takes care of the kids Wife who cook. That&r...
lemon ladyboy
  12/11/25
it's for having a family which is one of the basic things of...
spruce odious water buffalo people who are hurt
  12/11/25
your life. good for you. your life. your values. yours. not ...
Electric high-end hominid
  12/11/25
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Dun Offensive House Volcanic Crater
  12/12/25
this is a pretty Anglo post no offense
aromatic bawdyhouse
  12/12/25
Read this in the James Van Der Beek "I don't want your ...
Adventurous cuckold
  12/12/25
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ultramarine slippery macaca community account
  12/12/25
Suicide by inaction
concupiscible circlehead orchestra pit
  12/12/25
I'm saying it does offer the man something, a stable environ...
spruce odious water buffalo people who are hurt
  12/12/25
gay
Dun Offensive House Volcanic Crater
  12/12/25
can you expand on "this white nigger "need mo fami...
razzmatazz anal alpha lodge
  12/12/25
probably. what's in it for me
Electric high-end hominid
  01/22/26
unless youre allowed not to have a job and free ride on her ...
Autistic frisky fanboi
  01/20/26
*dies laughing* pick your dirty skin robe labia off the gro...
Electric high-end hominid
  01/22/26
tp
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  02/02/26


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Date: December 7th, 2025 6:40 PM
Author: Electric high-end hominid



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Date: January 20th, 2026 8:00 PM
Author: deranged pistol

another LOSER ASIAN whining about women!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49604987)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: pale menage gunner

How long you been married, gookcel ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49605143)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 9:32 PM
Author: deranged pistol

so many threads from ASIANS complaining about women!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49605148)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: pale menage gunner

You can’t complain about something you never had

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49605166)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 10:06 PM
Author: deranged pistol

white men dont pay for sex either dont forget!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49605228)



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Date: January 22nd, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: Electric high-end hominid

https://youtu.be/pKQp61e94VE?si=hVdTEb0VnwG1Z3yC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49609465)



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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:47 PM
Author: deranged pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49610814)



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Date: January 28th, 2026 7:04 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49628503)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:24 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49642045)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 6:40 PM
Author: Dark misanthropic abode

MFCR, the only reason to get married is to have children and provide a stable environment for them. Otherwise LJFL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492138)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: claret pervert

I, like dupa, have four children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492146)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 6:42 PM
Author: Dark misanthropic abode

One for each hundred pounds you carry around!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492150)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 6:45 PM
Author: beady-eyed ocher box office goal in life

rofl.

i've got one son for each 45 pounds i carry around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492157)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: claret pervert

You should try that math equation out on yourself, bud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492257)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:08 PM
Author: Dark misanthropic abode

Calm down bud we dont want you to stroke out you fat pig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492270)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:09 PM
Author: claret pervert

You can’t divide by zero, loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492276)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:24 PM
Author: Dark misanthropic abode

simmer down tons of fun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492321)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 6:43 PM
Author: Electric high-end hominid

You can do that just as easily with a BM

The political attachments and implications relating to marriage end up making it a liability for the kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492151)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:34 AM
Author: coral aggressive address preventive strike

the childless wandering sybarite speaks truth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49493090)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Opaque passionate office famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49494761)



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Date: December 11th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Opaque passionate office famous landscape painting

Edit: Sorry man, nevermind, I don't really know your whole situation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49503291)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: Electric high-end hominid

"Wedlock"ed in place and easy to manipulate and gather census information on by the state

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492143)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 6:47 PM
Author: bateful olive university

love my kids, love my wife tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492165)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: laughsome locus rigpig

I make homemade pizza from scratch. Fresh mozz too. I'm making one right now. Also the salary, the sex, and at least some emotional support. I try.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492191)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: laughsome locus rigpig

the other half of the dough will make great fresh baked bread tomorrow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492470)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:08 PM
Author: sickened floppy partner halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492855)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: trip crackhouse gay wizard

bunch of scholarship people looked at the data and found Earths most unhappy people were married women and single men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492307)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:26 PM
Author: Magenta charismatic property dopamine

the (((data)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492324)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:39 PM
Author: chestnut pea-brained philosopher-king milk

Correlation vs causation. Women don't want to marry some sad sack whereas miserable women can readily get married and they love finding some schlub to terrorize

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492362)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:25 PM
Author: Magenta charismatic property dopamine

What about the sex my guy? You get a live-in slut that you can fuck whenever you want for free

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492322)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: Cerise candlestick maker personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492344)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: chestnut pea-brained philosopher-king milk

That's called a girlfriend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492369)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:44 PM
Author: Dun Offensive House Volcanic Crater

(virgin)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492370)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:46 PM
Author: aromatic bawdyhouse

we're talking about marriage not having an au pair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492376)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:36 PM
Author: aromatic bawdyhouse

every single married guy i know would be better off single except for 2 guys who are basically mega successful chads so their wives dont give them shit

every other married guy i know has a completely unenviable existence. and i say this as someone who does envy the lives of fathers who have decent home situations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492351)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:56 PM
Author: beady-eyed ocher box office goal in life

add me in. i'm married w 3 sons and a wife who keeps slim and barely spends money and makes ~200k and is a great mom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492397)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: aromatic bawdyhouse

you are literally a pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492417)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: maniacal clown

u are the biggest fucking faggot in need of validation in existence

KILL URSELF FAGGOT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492471)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: Primrose histrionic area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492860)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: confused hairless sweet tailpipe

Describe these marriages where the wife doesn't give the husband shit. Hard to comprehend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492422)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: aromatic bawdyhouse

they are just really attractive high status guys so their wives treat them well

basically if your wife isn't constantly 24/7 terrified that you're going to ditch her for another woman, you're done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492459)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 6:22 AM
Author: confused hairless sweet tailpipe

Are the wives waiting on these guys hand and foot? Or are they just not nagging and harassing them? Just the latter sounds like a dream come true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49493110)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: beady-eyed ocher box office goal in life

my wife is introverted and hates thingdoing. she thinks i'm the extroverted and thingdoer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492463)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: maniacal clown

u are the biggest fucking faggot in need of validation in existence

KILL URSELF FAGGOT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492469)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Stubborn coiffed internal respiration corner

Women are great when they’re happy and you’re giving them a narrative that aligns with their life vision of constant progression. In other words, they’re great until you can’t give them what they want, and they always want more. Unfortunately, you’re often married to them before your luck runs out. They’re tricky like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492411)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Electric high-end hominid

ok so don't marry some vengeful dipshit shrew

ez gg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492414)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: Cobalt resort liquid oxygen

Can you convince my brother of this before he kills self thank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492419)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:04 PM
Author: Electric high-end hominid

is he married to meghan markle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492424)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: Cobalt resort liquid oxygen

He’s not married but is convinced that he wants to be and blew his chance or something. He’s late thirties and mopes around like a heartbroken teenager, it’s bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492433)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: lemon ladyboy

I enjoy my life and my kids. I get it though being single would be 180 too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492878)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: erotic rigor school cafeteria

Tax advantages, possibly better benefits. These two are hugely beneficial to low or moderate income men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49494647)



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Date: December 11th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: lemon ladyboy

Wife who takes care of the kids

Wife who cook.

That’s pretty beneficial to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49502608)



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Date: December 11th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: spruce odious water buffalo people who are hurt

it's for having a family which is one of the basic things of life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49503299)



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Date: December 11th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: Electric high-end hominid

your life. good for you. your life. your values. yours. not ours. not mine. there is no legitimate basis for your values to overwrite mine. for individuals, having a family is personally preferable to not having a family. that's it and that's as far as i'll agree on the matter. otherwise, in present day conditions, it's inconsequential. it's a personal decision. to be undertaken by individuals. when they want to, when they feel that they're ready, and of their own volition and agency.

this white nigger "need mo families fo my bass pro shops pyramid" shit is done. it's morally indefensible. the forces driving it boil down to two things: money and control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49503322)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Dun Offensive House Volcanic Crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49504115)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: aromatic bawdyhouse

this is a pretty Anglo post no offense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49504117)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:22 AM
Author: Adventurous cuckold

Read this in the James Van Der Beek "I don't want your life" Varsity Blues voice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49504118)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: ultramarine slippery macaca community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49504121)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: concupiscible circlehead orchestra pit

Suicide by inaction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49504154)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:53 AM
Author: spruce odious water buffalo people who are hurt

I'm saying it does offer the man something, a stable environment in which to raise a family, which is the core unit of everything since humans have lived

all that rambling doesn't change the fact that having a family is a fundamental drive, that isn't going to change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49504165)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Dun Offensive House Volcanic Crater

gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49504186)



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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:02 AM
Author: razzmatazz anal alpha lodge

can you expand on "this white nigger "need mo families fo my bass pro shops pyramid" shit"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49504192)



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Date: January 22nd, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: Electric high-end hominid

probably. what's in it for me

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Date: January 20th, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: Autistic frisky fanboi

unless youre allowed not to have a job and free ride on her health insurance its just a giant joke..

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Date: January 22nd, 2026 3:45 PM
Author: Electric high-end hominid

*dies laughing*

pick your dirty skin robe labia off the ground and go take your false pretenses concern trolling somewhere else, preferably to a brothel or highway overpass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807646&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49609443)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:24 PM
Author: Battle Diaper Alita

tp

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