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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Fluffy Indigo Legend Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: sexy party of the first part theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49589879) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49604959) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: razzle-dazzle church pisswyrm Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Bistre Abode Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: razzle-dazzle church pisswyrm (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Bistre Abode They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: razzle-dazzle church pisswyrm read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: black beady-eyed institution roast beef Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Fragrant opaque milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Exciting Mauve Bawdyhouse Foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Alcoholic Talking Resort Halford what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Out-of-control Violent Love Of Her Life cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Judgmental Insane Native I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: black beady-eyed institution roast beef teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: peach sticky potus stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: claret crackhouse i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: massive garnet hominid Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Umber slimy stead really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Submissive autistic public bath It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Cowardly yarmulke stain it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Submissive autistic public bath Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310904#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Umber slimy stead actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |