Starting to think Uncle Ted’s responses were *not* disproportionate
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Date: July 7th, 2021 11:26 AM Author: nubile locus corn cake
117. In any technologically advanced society the individual’s fate MUST depend on decisions that he personally cannot influence to any great extent. A technological society cannot be broken down into small, autonomous communities, because production depends on the cooperation of very large numbers of people and machines. Such a society MUST be highly organized and decisions HAVE TO be made that affect very large numbers of people. When a decision affects, say, a million people, then each of the affected individuals has, on the average, only a one-millionth share in making the decision. What usually happens in practice is that decisions are made by public officials or corporation executives, or by technical specialists, but even when the public votes on a decision the number of voters ordinarily is too large for the vote of any one individual to be significant. [17] Thus most individuals are unable to influence measurably the major decisions that affect their lives. There is no conceivable way to remedy this in a technologically advanced society. The system tries to “solve” this problem by using propaganda to make people WANT the decisions that have been made for them, but even if this “solution” were completely successful in making people feel better, it would be demeaning.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4749087&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905",#42743805) |
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Date: July 7th, 2021 11:28 AM Author: nubile locus corn cake
129. Another reason why technology is such a powerful social force is that, within the context of a given society, technological progress marches in only one direction; it can never be reversed. Once a technical innovation has been introduced, people usually become dependent on it, so that they can never again do without it, unless it is replaced by some still more advanced innovation. Not only do people become dependent as individuals on a new item of technology, but, even more, the system as a whole becomes dependent on it. (Imagine what would happen to the system today if computers, for example, were eliminated.) Thus the system can move in only one direction, toward greater technologization. Technology repeatedly forces freedom to take a step back, but technology can never take a step back—short of the overthrow of the whole technological system.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4749087&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905",#42743811) |
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Date: July 7th, 2021 11:43 AM Author: nubile locus corn cake
In every Dystopia scenario where modern technology has faltered, a great deal of time and energy is spent by the inhabitants of this collapsed world acquiring and using now-defunct technology.
However many steps back a disaster might move technology, the human impulse is to immediately begin developing technology.
Uncle Ted directly refutes your criticism in the above paragraph when he writes, "within the context of a given society".
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4749087&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905",#42743868) |
Date: October 7th, 2024 11:21 AM Author: rachmiel ruined my life (jcm)
The biggest problem with Uncle T's response was that it wasn't strong enough.
HTH.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4749087&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905",#48172594) |
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