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Ever wonder why 95% of "Great Literature" is utterly retarded and boring?

i still, from time to time, think about this, and resent my ...
Bateful sable sanctuary prole
  01/11/26
now imagine the shitlib literature theyre reading in HS now ...
At-the-ready ticket booth organic girlfriend
  01/11/26
This is an idiotic take. Literature is truly beautiful and a...
fragrant overrated crackhouse
  01/11/26
I toss the literature boy! I toss it like rubbish!
Curious garnet feces
  01/11/26
Subtle Ethan Frome bashing
Wild Comical Casino Sandwich
  01/11/26
By any measure, I was probably in the 99th percentile of hig...
Cruel-hearted liquid oxygen
  01/11/26
The black literature was even worse
Wild Comical Casino Sandwich
  01/11/26
Invisible man was pretty good IRC
soul-stirring whorehouse rigor
  01/12/26
"I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school l...
Vengeful meetinghouse generalized bond
  01/12/26
he sounds smart to me
disgusting out-of-control property indirect expression
  01/12/26
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pearly hall
  01/12/26
It's bonkers how millions of high school kids are forced to ...
Cruel-hearted liquid oxygen
  01/11/26
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histrionic library
  01/11/26
Every American school child should be forced to slog their w...
fragrant overrated crackhouse
  01/11/26
the classics are one of the few redeeming aspects of the mod...
godawful dilemma
  01/11/26
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Erotic Incel
  01/12/26
ok so what do the real scholars, who have spent time with la...
pearly hall
  01/12/26
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Erotic Incel
  01/12/26
that's all fine. i just think kids should be exposed to the...
pearly hall
  01/12/26
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Erotic Incel
  01/12/26
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pearly hall
  01/12/26
ok let's keep teaching them spanish so they can order diarrh...
godawful dilemma
  01/14/26
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Erotic Incel
  01/14/26
Latin and Greek are dumb and gay.
excitant brunch skinny woman
  01/12/26
the dense unintelligible prose is 180 because it lets them k...
Cyan Plaza Water Buffalo
  01/11/26
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bossy sooty new version
  01/12/26
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pearl chest-beating church building lettuce
  01/12/26
I like this theory
flesh provocative hell
  01/12/26
(flunked matrix algebra)
electric senate
  01/12/26
"In 2010, a national U.S. Department of Education study...
Sienna Heaven Ceo
  01/12/26
not flame they should teach descriptive statistics as an int...
electric senate
  01/12/26
I thought it was more like “this shit is gay and for p...
Cyan Plaza Water Buffalo
  01/14/26
The point is to give them all a reference point for having s...
electric senate
  01/11/26
Bro thats how you ended up pumo!
avocado box office
  01/11/26
It couldn't have anything to do with your intelligence.
glassy mind-boggling deer antler stead
  01/11/26
thread not going how OP expected? the western canon is 180,...
pearly hall
  01/11/26
american authors yes, you gotta read non-american
trip headpube
  01/11/26
Retarded
twisted yarmulke rehab
  01/11/26
Moby Dick is 97590402001710103710
Magical Pungent Field Personal Credit Line
  01/11/26
Real retarded sir
flesh provocative hell
  01/12/26
I don’t think “great literature” is synony...
Stirring theater stage really tough guy
  01/11/26
what books would you recommend instead ? id have paul val...
histrionic library
  01/11/26
Print capitalism has been a disaster for mankind
electric senate
  01/11/26
teachers should go before the school boards in open session...
vibrant sinister clown stage
  01/11/26
Should students be required to read (after purchasing at ful...
Vengeful meetinghouse generalized bond
  01/12/26
why do you write this way?
Fantasy-prone khaki pocket flask point
  01/12/26
why do you write so much?
vibrant sinister clown stage
  01/12/26
I can't stand the way contemporary authors write - telegraph...
Sticky carmine address
  01/12/26
Since James Joyce and Sam Beckett, there hasn't been any Gre...
Razzle people who are hurt space
  01/12/26
Nabokov, Greene, Ishiguro, maybe McEwan. Do they reach Joyc...
pearly hall
  01/12/26
Great Literature is defined as adding to the canon of the hu...
Razzle people who are hurt space
  01/14/26
Im gay
Heady abode
  01/12/26
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histrionic library
  01/12/26
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Heady abode
  01/12/26
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soul-stirring whorehouse rigor
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Heady abode
  01/13/26
You only think this because English-language "great lit...
unhinged shrine degenerate
  01/14/26
totally agree that a lot of great literature is exactly that...
hairraiser hospital
  01/14/26
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Erotic Incel
  01/14/26


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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: Bateful sable sanctuary prole

i still, from time to time, think about this, and resent my high school teachers for making me read those books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49581978)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: At-the-ready ticket booth organic girlfriend

now imagine the shitlib literature theyre reading in HS now

the stuff we read aint perfect, but imagine hs english now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49581980)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:26 PM
Author: fragrant overrated crackhouse

This is an idiotic take. Literature is truly beautiful and ascended at times. It’s not some trifle to be tossed away like a piece of rubbish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582002)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: Curious garnet feces

I toss the literature boy! I toss it like rubbish!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582036)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: Wild Comical Casino Sandwich

Subtle Ethan Frome bashing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582011)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted liquid oxygen

By any measure, I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school literature readers.

The only thing I took away from Ethan Frome was "wtf - why would they try to kill themselves by sledding? how stupid are these people that they thought this would work?"

What was the point of the average kids being forced to read this shit?

Wouldn't a Michael Chricton book capture their attention 10x more and present dramatic themes and philosophy in a much more understandable way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582022)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: Wild Comical Casino Sandwich

The black literature was even worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582047)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:41 PM
Author: soul-stirring whorehouse rigor

Invisible man was pretty good IRC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584207)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:35 AM
Author: Vengeful meetinghouse generalized bond

"I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school literature readers"

And I'm sure your grades (and subsequent academic success) reflected this reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582333)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: disgusting out-of-control property indirect expression

he sounds smart to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584177)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 7:44 PM
Author: pearly hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584673)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted liquid oxygen

It's bonkers how millions of high school kids are forced to read these books with story and themes unrecognizable to them with dense unintelliglbe prose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582013)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: histrionic library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582026)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:38 PM
Author: fragrant overrated crackhouse

Every American school child should be forced to slog their way through Moby Dick in 9th grade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582029)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:56 PM
Author: godawful dilemma

the classics are one of the few redeeming aspects of the modern american high school humanities curriculum. they should be reading this kind of material exclusively in addition to latin and greek. the problem is that they deviate from it.

their teachers surely fuck up the discourse but mere exposure is at least a lifeline to the few intellects worth salvaging. the remaining 99% are just in virtual daycare anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582078)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:33 AM
Author: Erotic Incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582332)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: pearly hall

ok so what do the real scholars, who have spent time with latin and greek, say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582710)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:22 AM
Author: Erotic Incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582749)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:02 AM
Author: pearly hall

that's all fine. i just think kids should be exposed to the ideas found in these works in english translation (per non-woke translators)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582955)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:09 AM
Author: Erotic Incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582965)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:38 PM
Author: pearly hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584373)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:11 AM
Author: godawful dilemma

ok let's keep teaching them spanish so they can order diarrhea burritos from san antonio food trucks and communicate with their roofers. much more "practical."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588267)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:59 AM
Author: Erotic Incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588335)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:49 AM
Author: excitant brunch skinny woman

Latin and Greek are dumb and gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582347)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:16 PM
Author: Cyan Plaza Water Buffalo

the dense unintelligible prose is 180 because it lets them know how dumb they are. Losers should also be forced to take calculus. The education system is good at letting a person know how dumb they are if they don't disengage with it too early.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582245)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:55 AM
Author: bossy sooty new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582348)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 2:56 AM
Author: pearl chest-beating church building lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582502)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:32 PM
Author: flesh provocative hell

I like this theory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584173)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:40 PM
Author: electric senate

(flunked matrix algebra)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584204)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:43 PM
Author: Sienna Heaven Ceo

"In 2010, a national U.S. Department of Education study found that 80 percent of high school dropouts cited their inability to pass Algebra I as the primary reason for leaving school."

https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1013968

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584398)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:52 PM
Author: electric senate

not flame they should teach descriptive statistics as an introduction to algebra. But that would require math teachers to learn statistics, and that's illegal AFAICT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584436)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:15 AM
Author: Cyan Plaza Water Buffalo

I thought it was more like “this shit is gay and for pussies” 😎

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588273)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:25 PM
Author: electric senate

The point is to give them all a reference point for having some kind of cultural/national identity. You don't have to like any of it, you just have know the basic plot or how to pronounce the author's name. Mexicans love reading the classics so they can feel more European

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582258)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: avocado box office

Bro thats how you ended up pumo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582033)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: glassy mind-boggling deer antler stead

It couldn't have anything to do with your intelligence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582042)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: pearly hall

thread not going how OP expected? the western canon is 180, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582054)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: trip headpube

american authors yes, you gotta read non-american

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582057)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:09 PM
Author: twisted yarmulke rehab

Retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582232)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:27 PM
Author: Magical Pungent Field Personal Credit Line

Moby Dick is 97590402001710103710

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582262)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:32 PM
Author: flesh provocative hell

Real retarded sir

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584174)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: Stirring theater stage really tough guy

I don’t think “great literature” is synonymous with most of the bullshit they made us read in hs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582060)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: histrionic library

what books would you recommend instead ?

id have paul valery monsieur teste and the remains of the day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582070)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:19 PM
Author: electric senate

Print capitalism has been a disaster for mankind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582251)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:23 PM
Author: vibrant sinister clown stage

teachers should go before the school boards

in open session

and tell them the books they are going to require for each class

and why

before every school year, perhaps before every semester

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582254)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:36 AM
Author: Vengeful meetinghouse generalized bond

Should students be required to read (after purchasing at full price) The Art of the Deal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582336)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 3:05 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone khaki pocket flask point

why do you write this way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582508)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:59 PM
Author: vibrant sinister clown stage

why do you write so much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49583325)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: Sticky carmine address

I can't stand the way contemporary authors write - telegraphic sentences with no interior identity, just "Jane did this, Joe did that, he said she said blah blah". every voice is the Same.

like why the fuck would I read something like that instead of just watching a tv show or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582758)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:46 AM
Author: Razzle people who are hurt space

Since James Joyce and Sam Beckett, there hasn't been any Great Literature. Just force feed Harry Potter books to the next generation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582780)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 7:54 PM
Author: pearly hall

Nabokov, Greene, Ishiguro, maybe McEwan. Do they reach Joyce, no, but they do meet other Great Literature



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584704)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:41 AM
Author: Razzle people who are hurt space

Great Literature is defined as adding to the canon of the human experience expressed through immortal words, words, words. I daresay no one living today would dare such a feat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588311)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:56 AM
Author: Heady abode

Im gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582940)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: histrionic library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582991)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 1:02 PM
Author: Heady abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49583332)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 12:28 PM
Author: soul-stirring whorehouse rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49586151)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: Heady abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49586161)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:47 AM
Author: unhinged shrine degenerate

You only think this because English-language "great literature", especially as conceived by American high school teachers, is full of shitty novels for women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588315)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: hairraiser hospital

totally agree that a lot of great literature is exactly that. there is also the strand of rambling Dickens crap where he was basically paid by the word and it shows.

also agree with above that most of the themes of actually great novels are inaccessible to a teen brain who have only experienced struggles relating to horizontal (peer) or vertical (parents/teachers) relationships.

i had to read The Sound and the Fury which was completely fucking ridiculous in hindsight. if a kid can barely understand the structure of a novel it makes very little sense to read something that upends it. the first fourth is a retard POV who cannot tell time. class was such a slog with 99% of the class having no idea what was happening



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588326)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 9:09 AM
Author: Erotic Incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588345)