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Ever wonder why 95% of "Great Literature" is utterly retarded and boring?

i still, from time to time, think about this, and resent my ...
Bronze garrison
  01/11/26
now imagine the shitlib literature theyre reading in HS now ...
Dull Zombie-like Turdskin
  01/11/26
This is an idiotic take. Literature is truly beautiful and a...
Big really tough guy
  01/11/26
I toss the literature boy! I toss it like rubbish!
erotic internal respiration sneaky criminal
  01/11/26
Subtle Ethan Frome bashing
deep bateful circlehead
  01/11/26
By any measure, I was probably in the 99th percentile of hig...
Glittery incel senate
  01/11/26
The black literature was even worse
deep bateful circlehead
  01/11/26
Invisible man was pretty good IRC
Honey-headed Hunting Ground Halford
  01/12/26
"I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school l...
Impertinent outnumbered theatre dysfunction
  01/12/26
he sounds smart to me
Ruddy useless brakes institution
  01/12/26
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at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater
  01/12/26
It's bonkers how millions of high school kids are forced to ...
Glittery incel senate
  01/11/26
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impressive athletic conference
  01/11/26
Every American school child should be forced to slog their w...
Big really tough guy
  01/11/26
the classics are one of the few redeeming aspects of the mod...
Angry deer antler
  01/11/26
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bearded french death wish jew
  01/12/26
ok so what do the real scholars, who have spent time with la...
at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater
  01/12/26
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bearded french death wish jew
  01/12/26
that's all fine. i just think kids should be exposed to the...
at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater
  01/12/26
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bearded french death wish jew
  01/12/26
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at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater
  01/12/26
ok let's keep teaching them spanish so they can order diarrh...
Angry deer antler
  01/14/26
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bearded french death wish jew
  01/14/26
Latin and Greek are dumb and gay.
nofapping address
  01/12/26
the dense unintelligible prose is 180 because it lets them k...
Electric menage dopamine
  01/11/26
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nighttime point
  01/12/26
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Shaky lettuce den
  01/12/26
I like this theory
stubborn mental disorder toaster
  01/12/26
(flunked matrix algebra)
provocative bull headed nursing home
  01/12/26
"In 2010, a national U.S. Department of Education study...
blathering pistol stage
  01/12/26
not flame they should teach descriptive statistics as an int...
provocative bull headed nursing home
  01/12/26
I thought it was more like “this shit is gay and for p...
Electric menage dopamine
  01/14/26
The point is to give them all a reference point for having s...
provocative bull headed nursing home
  01/11/26
Bro thats how you ended up pumo!
passionate office therapy
  01/11/26
It couldn't have anything to do with your intelligence.
bonkers skinny woman lodge
  01/11/26
thread not going how OP expected? the western canon is 180,...
at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater
  01/11/26
american authors yes, you gotta read non-american
doobsian cocky wagecucks hall
  01/11/26
Retarded
Ungodly Rehab Patrolman
  01/11/26
Moby Dick is 97590402001710103710
Diverse background story
  01/11/26
Real retarded sir
stubborn mental disorder toaster
  01/12/26
I don’t think “great literature” is synony...
fragrant mad-dog skullcap
  01/11/26
what books would you recommend instead ? id have paul val...
impressive athletic conference
  01/11/26
Print capitalism has been a disaster for mankind
provocative bull headed nursing home
  01/11/26
teachers should go before the school boards in open session...
Balding silver mexican
  01/11/26
Should students be required to read (after purchasing at ful...
Impertinent outnumbered theatre dysfunction
  01/12/26
why do you write this way?
Iridescent Party Of The First Part Liquid Oxygen
  01/12/26
why do you write so much?
Balding silver mexican
  01/12/26
I can't stand the way contemporary authors write - telegraph...
apoplectic transparent knife ratface
  01/12/26
Since James Joyce and Sam Beckett, there hasn't been any Gre...
sepia disrespectful national
  01/12/26
Nabokov, Greene, Ishiguro, maybe McEwan. Do they reach Joyc...
at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater
  01/12/26
Great Literature is defined as adding to the canon of the hu...
sepia disrespectful national
  01/14/26
Im gay
Histrionic Candlestick Maker Crotch
  01/12/26
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impressive athletic conference
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Histrionic Candlestick Maker Crotch
  01/12/26
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Honey-headed Hunting Ground Halford
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Histrionic Candlestick Maker Crotch
  01/13/26
You only think this because English-language "great lit...
stirring hell
  01/14/26
totally agree that a lot of great literature is exactly that...
crusty hyperventilating locale
  01/14/26
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bearded french death wish jew
  01/14/26


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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: Bronze garrison

i still, from time to time, think about this, and resent my high school teachers for making me read those books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49581978)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: Dull Zombie-like Turdskin

now imagine the shitlib literature theyre reading in HS now

the stuff we read aint perfect, but imagine hs english now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49581980)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:26 PM
Author: Big really tough guy

This is an idiotic take. Literature is truly beautiful and ascended at times. It’s not some trifle to be tossed away like a piece of rubbish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582002)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: erotic internal respiration sneaky criminal

I toss the literature boy! I toss it like rubbish!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582036)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: deep bateful circlehead

Subtle Ethan Frome bashing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582011)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: Glittery incel senate

By any measure, I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school literature readers.

The only thing I took away from Ethan Frome was "wtf - why would they try to kill themselves by sledding? how stupid are these people that they thought this would work?"

What was the point of the average kids being forced to read this shit?

Wouldn't a Michael Chricton book capture their attention 10x more and present dramatic themes and philosophy in a much more understandable way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582022)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: deep bateful circlehead

The black literature was even worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582047)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:41 PM
Author: Honey-headed Hunting Ground Halford

Invisible man was pretty good IRC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584207)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:35 AM
Author: Impertinent outnumbered theatre dysfunction

"I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school literature readers"

And I'm sure your grades (and subsequent academic success) reflected this reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582333)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: Ruddy useless brakes institution

he sounds smart to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584177)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 7:44 PM
Author: at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584673)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: Glittery incel senate

It's bonkers how millions of high school kids are forced to read these books with story and themes unrecognizable to them with dense unintelliglbe prose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582013)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: impressive athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582026)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:38 PM
Author: Big really tough guy

Every American school child should be forced to slog their way through Moby Dick in 9th grade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582029)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:56 PM
Author: Angry deer antler

the classics are one of the few redeeming aspects of the modern american high school humanities curriculum. they should be reading this kind of material exclusively in addition to latin and greek. the problem is that they deviate from it.

their teachers surely fuck up the discourse but mere exposure is at least a lifeline to the few intellects worth salvaging. the remaining 99% are just in virtual daycare anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582078)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:33 AM
Author: bearded french death wish jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582332)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater

ok so what do the real scholars, who have spent time with latin and greek, say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582710)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:22 AM
Author: bearded french death wish jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582749)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:02 AM
Author: at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater

that's all fine. i just think kids should be exposed to the ideas found in these works in english translation (per non-woke translators)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582955)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:09 AM
Author: bearded french death wish jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582965)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:38 PM
Author: at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584373)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:11 AM
Author: Angry deer antler

ok let's keep teaching them spanish so they can order diarrhea burritos from san antonio food trucks and communicate with their roofers. much more "practical."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588267)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:59 AM
Author: bearded french death wish jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588335)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:49 AM
Author: nofapping address

Latin and Greek are dumb and gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582347)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:16 PM
Author: Electric menage dopamine

the dense unintelligible prose is 180 because it lets them know how dumb they are. Losers should also be forced to take calculus. The education system is good at letting a person know how dumb they are if they don't disengage with it too early.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582245)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:55 AM
Author: nighttime point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582348)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 2:56 AM
Author: Shaky lettuce den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582502)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:32 PM
Author: stubborn mental disorder toaster

I like this theory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584173)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:40 PM
Author: provocative bull headed nursing home

(flunked matrix algebra)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584204)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:43 PM
Author: blathering pistol stage

"In 2010, a national U.S. Department of Education study found that 80 percent of high school dropouts cited their inability to pass Algebra I as the primary reason for leaving school."

https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1013968

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584398)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:52 PM
Author: provocative bull headed nursing home

not flame they should teach descriptive statistics as an introduction to algebra. But that would require math teachers to learn statistics, and that's illegal AFAICT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584436)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:15 AM
Author: Electric menage dopamine

I thought it was more like “this shit is gay and for pussies” 😎

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588273)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:25 PM
Author: provocative bull headed nursing home

The point is to give them all a reference point for having some kind of cultural/national identity. You don't have to like any of it, you just have know the basic plot or how to pronounce the author's name. Mexicans love reading the classics so they can feel more European

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582258)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: passionate office therapy

Bro thats how you ended up pumo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582033)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: bonkers skinny woman lodge

It couldn't have anything to do with your intelligence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582042)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater

thread not going how OP expected? the western canon is 180, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582054)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: doobsian cocky wagecucks hall

american authors yes, you gotta read non-american

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582057)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:09 PM
Author: Ungodly Rehab Patrolman

Retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582232)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:27 PM
Author: Diverse background story

Moby Dick is 97590402001710103710

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582262)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:32 PM
Author: stubborn mental disorder toaster

Real retarded sir

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584174)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: fragrant mad-dog skullcap

I don’t think “great literature” is synonymous with most of the bullshit they made us read in hs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582060)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: impressive athletic conference

what books would you recommend instead ?

id have paul valery monsieur teste and the remains of the day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582070)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:19 PM
Author: provocative bull headed nursing home

Print capitalism has been a disaster for mankind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582251)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:23 PM
Author: Balding silver mexican

teachers should go before the school boards

in open session

and tell them the books they are going to require for each class

and why

before every school year, perhaps before every semester

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582254)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:36 AM
Author: Impertinent outnumbered theatre dysfunction

Should students be required to read (after purchasing at full price) The Art of the Deal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582336)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 3:05 AM
Author: Iridescent Party Of The First Part Liquid Oxygen

why do you write this way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582508)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:59 PM
Author: Balding silver mexican

why do you write so much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49583325)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: apoplectic transparent knife ratface

I can't stand the way contemporary authors write - telegraphic sentences with no interior identity, just "Jane did this, Joe did that, he said she said blah blah". every voice is the Same.

like why the fuck would I read something like that instead of just watching a tv show or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582758)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:46 AM
Author: sepia disrespectful national

Since James Joyce and Sam Beckett, there hasn't been any Great Literature. Just force feed Harry Potter books to the next generation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582780)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 7:54 PM
Author: at-the-ready coral lay volcanic crater

Nabokov, Greene, Ishiguro, maybe McEwan. Do they reach Joyce, no, but they do meet other Great Literature



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49584704)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:41 AM
Author: sepia disrespectful national

Great Literature is defined as adding to the canon of the human experience expressed through immortal words, words, words. I daresay no one living today would dare such a feat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588311)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:56 AM
Author: Histrionic Candlestick Maker Crotch

Im gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582940)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: impressive athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49582991)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 1:02 PM
Author: Histrionic Candlestick Maker Crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49583332)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 12:28 PM
Author: Honey-headed Hunting Ground Halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49586151)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: Histrionic Candlestick Maker Crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49586161)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:47 AM
Author: stirring hell

You only think this because English-language "great literature", especially as conceived by American high school teachers, is full of shitty novels for women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588315)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: crusty hyperventilating locale

totally agree that a lot of great literature is exactly that. there is also the strand of rambling Dickens crap where he was basically paid by the word and it shows.

also agree with above that most of the themes of actually great novels are inaccessible to a teen brain who have only experienced struggles relating to horizontal (peer) or vertical (parents/teachers) relationships.

i had to read The Sound and the Fury which was completely fucking ridiculous in hindsight. if a kid can barely understand the structure of a novel it makes very little sense to read something that upends it. the first fourth is a retard POV who cannot tell time. class was such a slog with 99% of the class having no idea what was happening



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588326)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 9:09 AM
Author: bearded french death wish jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310905#49588345)