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How do I check out of my job without getting fired?

As you may know, I'm a software engineering manager. In the ...
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
Is your manager Indian? Indians don't use "bro".
Fighting cyan water buffalo
  01/20/26
My manager is a white woman, unfortunately.
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
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Translucent church gaming laptop
  01/20/26
AI agents
Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range
  01/20/26
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967620&mc=148&...
comical puce brethren
  01/20/26
also ai will take entire meetings and turn it into a small b...
Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range
  01/20/26
The problem is I have to actively participate in or even lea...
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
delegate
Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range
  01/20/26
You can't delegate running meetings as a middle manager. Th...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
why would u take a managerial role when meetings is literall...
Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range
  01/20/26
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Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
I thought management would be more tolerable than codecuckin...
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
Then go back to "codecucking."
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
fake getting into an accident then claim you have a disabili...
Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range
  01/20/26
1. Become competent at your job
exhilarant buff mental disorder son of senegal
  01/20/26
email me
razzle gunner
  01/20/26
Sent.
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
These projects are all stupid bullshit. Just get a job at Ch...
talking wild shrine yarmulke
  01/20/26
I heard they ask really tricky questions in their interviews...
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
they dont. my cousin works at chipotle and he's a felon who ...
talking wild shrine yarmulke
  01/20/26
Oh, interesting. Do they do WFH?
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
yes, if you live in the back of the store
talking wild shrine yarmulke
  01/20/26
...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
Are you an Engineer
Awkward meetinghouse
  01/20/26
If I remember correctly, I think I mentioned that I'm a soft...
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
they let Women do that. they can even manage the manager. sh...
Awkward meetinghouse
  01/20/26
Unfortunately, my manager is a white woman. She's also descr...
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
Does she actually understand how to do her job given that yo...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
Dear cowardly pumo, I've actually received multiple posit...
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
"received multiple positive evaluations of my performan...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
Whoa, I certainly didn't expect this level of distorted and ...
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
If you hate GC feel free not to work in GC. Go become a plu...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
LMAO, the more senior you get the more of your time is spent...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
Most of my time at work is spent either being in meeting or ...
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
Absolutely. You will have "steering committee" me...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
The problem is I don't like coding, either. It's just that i...
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
Ok, so then stfu and do your job (while at least faking bein...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
what is the purpose of meetings? phenotype expression?
Awkward meetinghouse
  01/20/26
How do you think strategic decisions get made and communicat...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
You don't understand, clique theory is his Lived Experience ...
exhilarant buff mental disorder son of senegal
  01/20/26
...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
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Histrionic red digit ratio brunch
  01/20/26
email
Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range
  01/20/26
I don't mean the communication to the entire company or tens...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
how does it fall apart when CEOs are All Tall probably.
Awkward meetinghouse
  01/20/26
Absolutely, like Bezos, Zuch, Gates, etc.
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/21/26
I hope your manager kills you
bateful address
  01/20/26
this is more proof of your faggotry than your normal faggott...
cerise spectacular university hissy fit
  01/20/26
Thanks!
Fluffy abusive karate
  01/20/26
kys, faggot, tyia!
cerise spectacular university hissy fit
  01/20/26
...
Beady-eyed rigor jap
  01/20/26
Age? Net worth? Any hope of FIRE? On a less flippant note...
Violet Jew
  01/21/26
Great story. OP what's your comp for putting up with this s...
Trip sound barrier blood rage
  01/21/26
My business team is retarded and I'm getting paid like a sen...
Orchid area depressive
  01/21/26


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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:02 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

As you may know, I'm a software engineering manager. In the last four or so months my job has become intolerable for several reasons:

1. My manager is now a "queer" shitlib feminist who uses the word "bro" derisively. This should be more than sufficient to look for a new job. But it gets worse.

2. I'm averaging at least four meetings a day. Today I had six. Almost had seven but turned down that last one because it was too much. As a manager and tech lead, I need to participate in nearly all of these meetings, so I can't sit back and just listen. The meeting load has somehow gotten even slightly worse recently.

3. My aforementioned manager is kind of stupid and is forcing me to make ill-advised decisions that may put my project far behind schedule and at risk of being cut.

The situation is simply beyond repair. I want to find something new, but apparently the tech job market is not in the best shape at the moment.

So, how can I check out of this job without getting fired? I can't attend fewer meetings. I still have to manage people. Too much shit on my plate. If I were an IC, it'd be much easier to stop giving a shit, but I'm in too visible of a position.

Please help. As mentioned in other threads, I still hope ICE murders my manager. Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604687)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:10 PM
Author: Fighting cyan water buffalo

Is your manager Indian? Indians don't use "bro".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604705)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:14 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

My manager is a white woman, unfortunately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604716)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:46 PM
Author: Translucent church gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604954)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:07 PM
Author: Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range

AI agents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604698)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:10 PM
Author: comical puce brethren

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2967620&mc=148&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604702)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:09 PM
Author: Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range

also ai will take entire meetings and turn it into a small bulletpoint sumary

just sit in the meetings and let ai listen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604700)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:15 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

The problem is I have to actively participate in or even lead most of these meetings. AI can’t replace that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604720)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:18 PM
Author: Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range

delegate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604728)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

You can't delegate running meetings as a middle manager. That's literally your primary function. If you did that you wouldn't "be visible" and would quickly get canned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604765)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:28 PM
Author: Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range

why would u take a managerial role when meetings is literally the job description

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604775)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:30 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604785)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:36 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

I thought management would be more tolerable than codecucking because I'm not autistic enough to code for several hours a day. Also seemed better for my career to move into management. But it turns out that I hate management even more than codecucking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604896)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:39 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

Then go back to "codecucking."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604914)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:40 PM
Author: Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range

fake getting into an accident then claim you have a disability that prevents you from being able to sit in too many meetings a day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604924)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:16 PM
Author: exhilarant buff mental disorder son of senegal

1. Become competent at your job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604722)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: razzle gunner

email me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604726)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:20 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

Sent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604735)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: talking wild shrine yarmulke

These projects are all stupid bullshit. Just get a job at Chipotle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604727)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:21 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

I heard they ask really tricky questions in their interviews. Like, how many golf balls can you fit in a school bus? I can never figure those out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604738)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:22 PM
Author: talking wild shrine yarmulke

they dont. my cousin works at chipotle and he's a felon who didnt finish high school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604745)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:23 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

Oh, interesting. Do they do WFH?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604749)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: talking wild shrine yarmulke

yes, if you live in the back of the store

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604752)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604772)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:21 PM
Author: Awkward meetinghouse

Are you an Engineer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604740)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:22 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

If I remember correctly, I think I mentioned that I'm a software engineering manager. I could be wrong, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604746)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: Awkward meetinghouse

they let Women do that. they can even manage the manager. she's probably a liberal artist btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604766)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:30 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

Unfortunately, my manager is a white woman. She's also described herself as "queer" and refers to her husband as her "partner." With these facts alone we can conclude she's a rancid, toxic shitlib. She does, however, have a CS degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604782)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:40 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

Does she actually understand how to do her job given that you obviously do not?

I generally hate shitlibs but the problem here sounds like a you problem and not a her problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604929)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:43 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

Dear cowardly pumo,

I've actually received multiple positive evaluations of my performance as a manager and unsolicited, positive feedback from a lot of people I work with. That does not change the fact that I hate my job.

Sincerely yours,

cucumbers tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604946)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

"received multiple positive evaluations of my performance as a manager and unsolicited, positive feedback from a lot of people I work with"

There are many perspectives that can produce that result but that still result in you failing and getting canned. For example, you demand nothing of your team so they love you. You ask nothing of other teams you work with so they like you too. Your manager doesn't meet her objectives and has to account for that, and she (correctly) blames you. I'm sure you'll assume that if she was a cool white Republican bro that you wouldn't have that problem but that's not actually the case. But there is a greater chance he would call you in his office, tell you to do your fucking job or else you're fired than this woman who will probably see no reason to do that when firing you is preferable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604958)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

Whoa, I certainly didn't expect this level of distorted and disgusting thinking, which is a certainly a product of fellating GC for decades. Fuck off with your nonsense and go bottom for your GC overlords you subhuman piece of trash! Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604993)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

If you hate GC feel free not to work in GC. Go become a plumber or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605165)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:23 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

LMAO, the more senior you get the more of your time is spent in meetings. For lawyers most of your day is in meetings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604751)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

Most of my time at work is spent either being in meeting or preparing for meetings. And some meetings are to plan for other meetings. And sometimes we have meetings to "debrief" after having a meeting that we planned for in an earlier meeting. Please hand me a gun so that I can shoot myself in the head with a 100% chance of death.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604767)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:30 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

Absolutely. You will have "steering committee" meetings with exec sponsors and such and then a "working group" meeting with worker bees and their managers so you can socialize what comes out of the steering committee meetings and then 1:1 meetings with key stakeholders so you can align on progress and strategy so that when you have your next steering committee meeting you have all of your ducks in a row so things go the way you want. That's how the sausage actually gets made in megacorps. If you just want to sit and code then you need to get out of the management chain and go be an individual contributor again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604784)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:33 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

The problem is I don't like coding, either. It's just that it's turned out that I hate management even more than codecucking. But IC roles don't seem as stable and easy to get as they used to be due to AI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604792)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:38 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

Ok, so then stfu and do your job (while at least faking being interested in moving things forward) or quit. The alternative is that you will get shitcanned because people like me absolutely can't stand people like this who often make everything harder rather than helping move things forward. You sound like you hate everything but frankly no one wants to hear it. At least try to understand the direction and figure out what you need to have your team do to make it happen. And yes, you are directly accountable for what your team does or fails to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604912)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: Awkward meetinghouse

what is the purpose of meetings? phenotype expression?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604771)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:33 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

How do you think strategic decisions get made and communicated? How do projects get managed? How do you get others to take a strategic position that aligns with your interests? All of that is meetings. You may be meeting with people with shitty phenotypes in senior positions or great phenotypes in low level positions right before they get canned. Your whole phenotype schtick falls apart in corporate America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604795)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:35 PM
Author: exhilarant buff mental disorder son of senegal

You don't understand, clique theory is his Lived Experience (in high school. He's Jewish btw).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604854)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:39 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604916)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 11:24 PM
Author: Histrionic red digit ratio brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605308)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:45 PM
Author: Concupiscible bat-shit-crazy range

email

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604952)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 9:38 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

I don't mean the communication to the entire company or tens of thousands of employees. Before that happens all the relevant senior people know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605161)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:51 PM
Author: Awkward meetinghouse

how does it fall apart when CEOs are All Tall probably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604966)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 2:23 AM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap

Absolutely, like Bezos, Zuch, Gates, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605544)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:36 PM
Author: bateful address

I hope your manager kills you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49604908)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: cerise spectacular university hissy fit

this is more proof of your faggotry than your normal faggotthreading

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605073)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: Fluffy abusive karate

Thanks!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605075)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 8:48 PM
Author: cerise spectacular university hissy fit

kys, faggot, tyia!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605091)



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Date: January 20th, 2026 9:40 PM
Author: Beady-eyed rigor jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605167)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 2:50 AM
Author: Violet Jew

Age? Net worth? Any hope of FIRE?

On a less flippant note, I once worked with a guy who was one of the first employees at Intel (back when they were they were a superhot young company). He said that they had a rule that no chairs were allowed in meetings. Everyone had to stand for the entire meeting. The theory was that this would give people an incentive to call meetings only when absolutely necessary and to keep them as short as possible. I have shared this story from time to time when I was involved in organizations where I felt like we spent an excessive amount of time in meetings. Sometimes people got the message. It is harder lately when more and more meetings happen on Zoom. But it's the best suggestion I've got.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605556)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 6:45 AM
Author: Trip sound barrier blood rage

Great story. OP what's your comp for putting up with this shitshow?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605612)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 6:32 AM
Author: Orchid area depressive

My business team is retarded and I'm getting paid like a senior counsel to be a GC because they're is no to little bonus multiple years in a row and the equity grant is worthless. I would love to get fired. I'm telling you this because you have one bright side to your story: at least you're not a lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824418&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310906#49605609)