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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: mind-boggling range Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49077411) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49156580) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49424474) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: Ruby Theatre Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49604959) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Slate Rebellious Jewess Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Silver Marvelous Place Of Business Philosopher-king Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Slate Rebellious Jewess (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Silver Marvelous Place Of Business Philosopher-king They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Slate Rebellious Jewess read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Temple Striped Hyena Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: abusive coffee pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Passionate Hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: At-the-ready histrionic lay what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: indigo locale cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: fuchsia partner antidepressant drug I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48985033) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Harsh rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Vivacious ratface gay wizard i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Irate Nursing Home Pisswyrm Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Hairless spruce giraffe really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: overrated wine half-breed It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: honey-headed vigorous sanctuary it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: overrated wine half-breed Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310907",#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Hairless spruce giraffe actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |