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Cons what the fuck is "absolute immunity?" Is that a legal concept?

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harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
yes it is
Scarlet ape
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
because White people (your Betters) decided that it should
Scarlet ape
  01/08/26
Why?
harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
yes, it is
Gold rehab
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
who cares
Gold rehab
  01/08/26
Anyone?
harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
(Stephen Miller’s intern)
Blue kitchen skinny woman
  01/08/26
Never heard of it.
crusty spot national security agency
  01/08/26
It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain cir...
hairraiser trailer park love of her life
  01/08/26
So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can a...
harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.
Razzmatazz navy church
  01/08/26
Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy...
harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killin...
Razzmatazz navy church
  01/08/26
DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the s...
harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity...
Razzmatazz navy church
  01/08/26
Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employmen...
harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue. abs...
Razzmatazz navy church
  01/08/26
So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if y...
harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it. qual...
Razzmatazz navy church
  01/08/26
I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agen...
harsh travel guidebook
  01/08/26
that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up s...
Razzmatazz navy church
  01/09/26
If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this gu...
harsh travel guidebook
  01/09/26
Shoulda listened to NSAM! https://x.com/i/status/20144947...
harsh travel guidebook
  01/23/26
Vance on Jan. 8: "You have a official engaging in feder...
harsh travel guidebook
  01/23/26


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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573120)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: Scarlet ape

yes it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573122)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573211)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: Scarlet ape

because White people (your Betters) decided that it should

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573240)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573418)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: Gold rehab

yes, it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573125)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573148)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:33 PM
Author: Gold rehab

who cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573205)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:34 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

Anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573210)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: Blue kitchen skinny woman

(Stephen Miller’s intern)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573130)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: crusty spot national security agency

Never heard of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573138)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: hairraiser trailer park love of her life

It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain circumstances) prosecutors and legislators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573213)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:15 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can arrest them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573368)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: Razzmatazz navy church

it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573411)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy absolute immunity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573417)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: Razzmatazz navy church

i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killing.

in general, though, the question of whether something is in the scope does not turn on whether policy was violated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573790)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:36 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the scope of their duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573813)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: Razzmatazz navy church

that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity. there is no need to decide whether a judge or legislator who is following policy should get immunity.

the entire issue arises when a judge or legislator is doing their job and massively errs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573965)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employment is amazing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573971)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: Razzmatazz navy church

i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue.

absolute immunity becomes an issue when someone arguably fucks up. it doesn't become an issue when someone follows policy.

so if a judge makes a massively erroneous ruling but wasn't bribed, etc., then it was within the scope of the job but was outside policy -- and the judge gets absolute immunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573986)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if you work for the government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49573991)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: Razzmatazz navy church

absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it.

qualified immunity is more common, but even there it is broadly applied. cons have wanted to trim back or even decimate QI but libs have opposed that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49574651)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:38 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agency policy that says "don't shoot moving vehicles," but an agency official shoots into a moving a vehicle, can the agency official still claim he was acting within the scope of his duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49574741)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: Razzmatazz navy church

that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up situations. but if you're doing more or less the official function, even if you get it wrong, it's within the scope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49574789)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:15 AM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this guy had extensive training and indemnifying him is a bad look for any employer. I guess I'll leave it there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49574803)



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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

Shoulda listened to NSAM!

https://x.com/i/status/2014494790247924089

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49613339)



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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: harsh travel guidebook

Vance on Jan. 8: "You have a official engaging in federal law enforcement action. That's a federal issue. That guy's protected by absolute immunity."

Vance today: "I didn't say that officers who engaged in wrongdoing would enjoy immunity. That's absurd."

https://x.com/i/status/2014472605198090693

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49613357)