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We have to have a large welfare state. Get over it.

Globalization and new tech has made a lot of workers obsolet...
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cream boyish keepsake machete
  08/12/12
Thank you, at least someone in this dump is up to speed.
deranged piazza
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Neoliberal alert, neoliberal alert
Out-of-control flickering milk field
  08/12/12
what steps are we going to take to reduce the birth rates of...
Disrespectful property party of the first part
  08/12/12
Dems try to make abortion freely available and that actually...
Awkward claret sound barrier
  08/12/12
*have made
obsidian newt
  08/17/12
killself
Awkward claret sound barrier
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no u. this is a prestigious law board. u clearly don't belon...
obsidian newt
  08/17/12
no, seriously, killself
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sorry, i don't engage in conversation with uneducated peasan...
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i went to hyp and hys aspie. not everyone proofreads posts o...
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BUT WE CANT AFFORD IT SOCIAL SECURITY WILL BANKRUPT US JUS...
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Holy shit, this is credited. It is a phenomenally simple id...
aggressive swashbuckling windowlicker menage
  08/12/12
many don't get neoliberalism.
Out-of-control flickering milk field
  08/12/12
Everyone grasps it, dummy. It's just empirically false.
emerald forum
  08/12/12
Why do we need to maintain them? Just let them go unemplo...
Sadistic rambunctious senate dysfunction
  08/12/12
without them, who will buy things?
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Current economic models based on supply and demand will be c...
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this demand view of the economy is pretty stupid. these peop...
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mfcr
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Foreigners. We need to return to being a net export country....
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where are we on this?
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(Marie Antoinette)
180 territorial people who are hurt dingle berry
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Not everyone is as morally repulsive as you. I believe in th...
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Do you fully believe that a largely bedridden 85 year-old, p...
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I don't believe in functionally useless end of life care, bu...
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Link to poor people reproducing less.
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One of the main reasons that nigger girls in the projects sp...
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What about poor countries where there is no welfare but poor...
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I agree, bro, which is why of all government-funded healthca...
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poor people in america are able to get enough nutrition to s...
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>in a world in which they received no support from their ...
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you assume we need a middle class at all.
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LET THEM EAT CAKE!
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s..o e..d...g........y
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This is a silly fucking thing to say. The alternative is peo...
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not only basic necessities but also frivolities + the appear...
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but way too pussy to say this in political advertisements
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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier

Globalization and new tech has made a lot of workers obsolete. We need a welfare state to maintain the middle class, and that's all there is to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324206)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: cream boyish keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324211)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: deranged piazza

Thank you, at least someone in this dump is up to speed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324212)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: Out-of-control flickering milk field

Neoliberal alert, neoliberal alert

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324239)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: Disrespectful property party of the first part

what steps are we going to take to reduce the birth rates of these unnecessary people? we shouldn't support them only to perpetuate this shitty situation into the next generation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324251)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier

Dems try to make abortion freely available and that actually does a lot of work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324292)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:14 AM
Author: obsidian newt

*have made

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21358746)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:15 AM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21358747)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:22 AM
Author: obsidian newt

no u. this is a prestigious law board. u clearly don't belong here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21358769)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:31 AM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier

no, seriously, killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21358799)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:41 AM
Author: obsidian newt

sorry, i don't engage in conversation with uneducated peasants so this will be my last post to you. do yourself a favor and at least get a GED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21358840)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:41 AM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier

i went to hyp and hys aspie. not everyone proofreads posts on xo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21358844)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: mewling alcoholic trump supporter hissy fit

superior anglo culture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49679303)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 5:37 PM
Author: mewling alcoholic trump supporter hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49681079)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 5:37 PM
Author: mewling alcoholic trump supporter hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49690077)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:59 PM
Author: Zippy marketing idea dopamine

BUT WE CANT AFFORD IT

SOCIAL SECURITY WILL BANKRUPT US

JUST LIKE ANY FAMILY, AMERICA NEEDZ TO SIT DOWN AT ARE KITCHEN TABLE AND CREATE A BALANCED BUDGET

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324229)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: aggressive swashbuckling windowlicker menage

Holy shit, this is credited. It is a phenomenally simple idea but so many can't grasp it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324232)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:01 PM
Author: Out-of-control flickering milk field

many don't get neoliberalism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324242)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: emerald forum

Everyone grasps it, dummy. It's just empirically false.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324333)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:01 PM
Author: Sadistic rambunctious senate dysfunction

Why do we need to maintain them?

Just let them go unemployed and die off.

Just do cream of the crop crossing into a new stage of human evolution, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324248)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: Out-of-control flickering milk field

without them, who will buy things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324256)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: Sadistic rambunctious senate dysfunction

Current economic models based on supply and demand will be completely obsolete in 50 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324265)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Disrespectful property party of the first part

this demand view of the economy is pretty stupid. these people are unproductive. giving them our money so they can buy things from us does not put us in a better situation. keynesian policy is intended to be a short-term policy, not a long-term one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324318)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: massive azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324364)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: Sadistic rambunctious senate dysfunction

mfcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324387)



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Date: August 22nd, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: Aromatic impertinent den

Foreigners. We need to return to being a net export country. And "things" will increasing turn into services rather than manufactured goods unless we can dismantle the NLRB and end the 'welfare state is a given' premise. We can no longer rely on self-sustaining domestic demand for American goods and services.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21395465)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: mewling alcoholic trump supporter hissy fit

where are we on this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49679306)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: 180 territorial people who are hurt dingle berry

(Marie Antoinette)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324269)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier

Not everyone is as morally repulsive as you. I believe in the singularity but I also believe in caring for other people. Go fuck yourself. That said, social stability would collapse without the welfare state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324272)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: Sadistic rambunctious senate dysfunction

Do you fully believe that a largely bedridden 85 year-old, pumped full of 10 different pharmaceuticals and hooked up to an oxygen tank, spending her days reading Home & Garden and watching The Price is Right and WE BUY GOLD commercials is as inherently valuable as you?

To society? To humanity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324302)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier

I don't believe in functionally useless end of life care, but info believe that providing everyone with decent medical care is a great moral good. Whether or not someone is as "valuable" as I am doesn't enter into it for me, I care about other people for their own sake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324319)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:04 PM
Author: topaz supple base son of senegal

Link to poor people reproducing less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324283)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: Sadistic rambunctious senate dysfunction

One of the main reasons that nigger girls in the projects spawn so much is that it directly bumps their welfare check. They literally dropout of HS, get knocked up on purpose, and live in the projects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324313)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: topaz supple base son of senegal

What about poor countries where there is no welfare but poors still manage to pump out babby after babby? This is not just a US or rich world phenomenon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324327)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: Sadistic rambunctious senate dysfunction

I agree, bro, which is why of all government-funded healthcare goods, widespread birth control is the one I would be happy to subsidize.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324336)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:11 PM
Author: Disrespectful property party of the first part

poor people in america are able to get enough nutrition to still be fertile. in a world in which they received no support from their betters, this would not be the case.

controlling the hungry masses might be difficult though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324348)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: topaz supple base son of senegal

>in a world in which they received no support from their betters, this would not be the case.

Lol no. Look at any underdeveloped country. They still reproduce at an alarming rate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324372)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: concupiscible pocket flask

you assume we need a middle class at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324276)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: Out-of-control flickering milk field

LET THEM EAT CAKE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324295)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: Zippy marketing idea dopamine

s..o

e..d...g........y

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324304)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: bistre theater stage

This is a silly fucking thing to say. The alternative is people kill you and take your shit. The last thing any rich person wants is an even mildly educated underclass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324314)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: concupiscible pocket flask

not only basic necessities but also frivolities + the appearance of social mobility. name one country that has had a violent revolution with those things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324344)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: bistre theater stage

This is correct. Mobility need not really exist, but the appearance of it is a necessity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324368)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier

So the conservative responses in this thread are 1. Let them all die and 2. we don't need a middle class. Sounds about right, lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324303)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Slap-happy meetinghouse

REMINDER: All XO conservatards are poors arguing for their own liquidation.

That's the real kicker. By their own logic none of them deserve to live.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324320)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: topaz supple base son of senegal

I fall into this trap sometimes. It's a pretty credited suicide method.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324335)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:12 PM
Author: emerald forum

I might be a "poor" by absolute monetary standards, but I don't take any welfare, and I have a great life.

Gas yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324362)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Walnut Mentally Impaired Associate

but way too pussy to say this in political advertisements

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324325)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: emerald forum

The real response is that OP is just factually incorrect. People can still make a living just fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324370)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:23 PM
Author: bistre theater stage

VENDOR! my party will have 15 of your meatpies, for I hear they are the finest in the land. It seems I must also have some of your ale to wash this down!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324433)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: bisexual low-t bbw clown

lol poor people, just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21324323)



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Date: August 13th, 2012 10:54 AM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21327162)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:11 AM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21358736)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:41 AM
Author: charcoal really tough guy

Solid thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21358838)



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Date: August 22nd, 2012 11:53 AM
Author: Awkward claret sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#21395425)